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Isn't that being a flip floppish ?

2007-01-09 09:57:34 · 18 answers · asked by Baghdad Pete ! 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

I know a great many former Muslims, I know of four female Kuwaiti's that have departed Islam. I lived in kuwait for 4 years and now in Iraq. I was engaged to one also. So yes I did know a great many Muslims and am still in contact with a few. Anything else Mr Wise***

2007-01-09 10:36:23 · update #1

News Flash for ya : Christians, Jews, Buddhist etc etc dont kill people who leave the faith.

2007-01-09 10:37:52 · update #2

Well robedzombie: muslims act on God's words, they believe that they are doing his will. Wake up !!!!

Please stop with the true and real crap. It's getting boring. Most Kuwaiti's are born and raised Muslim, although there is a large Christian family in Kuwait who are Kuwaiti's. Stop the childish crap folks.

No hate or bigotry here, just wondering what all the excitement is about and asking a question. Freedom of Speech here, grow up folks or should I just not ask questions and keep my mouth shut ? I have a right to know !

2007-01-09 10:45:28 · update #3

Oh yeah, what made Muslims think that they are right and on the true path. Is everyone else's path wrong ? Just set yourselves up on that high horse now huh ? Wow, big ego's here. Yet you live in poverty and can't build anything yourselves.

2007-01-09 10:47:47 · update #4

One "Miricle" of Islam:

On March 16, 624, near Badr, he led 300 warriors in a vicious attack against a large Meccan caravan protected by a force of 800. Some 40 Meccans were killed and 60 taken prisoner to a loss of only 14 Muslims. This amazing victory was seen as the attesting miracle Muhammad needed.

Miricle #2:

Having proved himself the prophet of Allah with the sword, Muhammad sealed his apostleship with more than twenty murders, beginning with al-Nadr, an old enemy from Mecca. Taken captive in the battle at Badr, he pleaded that the Meccan Quraish tribe would never kill captives. Muhammad had him beheaded anyway, justifying the deed with another "revelation": "It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land" (Surah 8:67).

2007-01-10 06:35:58 · update #5

Christ left Christians "an example, that ye should follow his steps: who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth: who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not...[but] bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness..." (1 Pt 2:21-24). But the Muslim must follow the example of Muhammad who killed all who dared to disagree with him!

A Christian must "know" God (Jer 9:24; Jn 17:3), "love" God with all his heart (Dt 6:5; Mt 22:37, etc.) and "believe" in Christ in his heart (Acts 8:37; Rom 10:9). The God of the Bible wants mans trust and affection without coercion.

2007-01-10 06:39:55 · update #6

In contrast, Allah can be neither known nor loved. Nor does one even have to believe to become a Muslim. Under threat of death, one merely recites aloud, "There is no ila (god) but Allah and Muhammad is his prophet." This "conversion without faith" was established when Abu Sufyan, a Quraish leader, upon surrendering Mecca in 630 to Muhammad and his superior army, admitted that he doubted the latters prophethood. He was warned, "Accept Islam and testify that Muhammad is the apostle of Allah before your neck is cut off by the sword. Thus [without believing] he professed the faith of Islam and became a Muslim." 6 This pattern is followed today: confess or die!

2007-01-10 06:41:30 · update #7

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If someone (a non-Muslim) should argue with us and ask us for reasons to demonstrate the truth of Islam, we could prove it through the eternal miracle of the Qur'an, and by reference to its miraculous nature, as we have explained before.

Here, however, it is our intention to satisfy our own minds, in the event that we should wish to find assurance concerning the truth of Islam; for sometimes it happens that such a question arises on the mind of a liberal-thinking man, when he desires to strengthen his faith.

As for the previous religions such as Judaism and Christianity, there is no way to prove the truth of them or to satisfy ourselves or anyone else who doubts them, without there being faith in Islam; for they have no eternal miracle like the Qur'an. And the miracles of the former prophets which their followers bring forward as evidence are unacceptable, because the verity of the narration is suspect. The books of the former prophets which have been handed down to us, that is to say the books which are related to these prophets such as the Torah and the Gospels, are in no way an eternal miracle which can be put forward as a convincing reason for the truth of their religions, which, nevertheless, have been confirmed by Islam.

It is clear that when we accept and believe in Islam, we must also believe in whatever it has brought and confirmed, and one of its teachings is the prophethood of many previous prophets, as we have described above. It therefore follows that a Muslim, after he has accepted the teachings of Islam, is not required to evaluate the truth of Christianity or Judaism or other such religions, because belief in Islam necessarily entails belief in the former religions and prophets. What is more, the Muslim does not need to verify the truth of the miracles of the former prophets.

However, if someone investigates the Islamic religion, but is not convinced of it, it is incumbent on him, as a rational necessity, to evaluate the truth of Christianity, because it is the last religion previous to Islam.
Then, if he is not convinced by Christianity he must consider Judaism, because it is the religion previous to Christianity and Islam, and he must continue in this way until he finds a religion about whose truth he feels certain.

By similar reasoning, it is clear that someone who has grown up believing in Judaism or Christianity must consider other religions to which people have been called by a prophet who came after their own prophet. For example, the Jews must evaluate Islam and Christianity according to what was said previously about the necessity to consider religions rationally, and Christians must consider the truth of Islam. It follows that neither of them can be excused for believing in their own religions while ignoring the subsequent religions because there is nothing in Judaism or Christianity which could contradict these religions, for neither Musa (A.S.) nor 'Isa (A.S.) stated that no prophet would come after them. It is surprising how Christians and Jews can be sure in their belief and in their religions without considering the truth of the subsequent and last religion.

Wisdom dictates that they weigh the truth of the subsequent religion or religions. And if the truth is not established, then they should continue with their original beliefs. The Muslim, on the other hand, as we stated earlier, because of his belief in Islam, has no need to consider the truth of the previous religions or of any future ones. As for the previous religions.
Islam has confirmed them; however, the Muslim should not follow their commandments or their books, because Islam has superseded them. And as regards future religions, the Holy Prophet of Islam, Muhammad (A.S.) said:

No prophet will come after me.

Since in the eyes of a Muslim the Prophet is honest and truthful, and, as Allah has said:

Nor does he speak from his own desire. This is nought but a revelation revealed. (53;3-4)

there is no need to prove the falsity of any new religion.

Now it is the duty of a Muslim, when a long period has elapsed since the time of the Prophet, and many opinions, beliefs and sects have arisen, to choose the way which he can be sure will guide him to the commandments of Allah as they were sent to Muhammad (S.A.), because the Muslim must carry out all the commandments as they were revealed to the Prophet. So how can he be sure that these commandments are the same as were revealed to the Prophet? Just as Muslims are divided into different sects on the basis of their opinions, so their prayer, worship and behaviour vary. What, then, should he do? What school should he follow in his worship and in such matters as marriage, divorce, inheritance, buying and selling, punishment, blood-money and the like?

It is not correct that he should follow his father, family or friends, for he must be certain of what he believes in. There can be no insincerity, partiality or fanaticism in religion. He is obliged to select rationally the way he believes to be the best, so as to be sure of his religious obligations and his responsibility towards Allah, and so that Allah will not punish him or reproach him for what he has done, believing it to be correct. Also, he should no listen to those who deride him for following the true path. Allah has said:

Does man think that he is to be left aimless. (75;36)

Also he has said:

Nay, man shall be a clear proof against himself. (75;14)

and

Lo! this is a reminder, that whosoever will, may choose a way unto his Lord. (76;29)

2007-01-09 19:43:08 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

If, as a muslim, you believe you are on the true path, why wouldn't you be happy if someone made the decision also?

On the flip side, why wouldn't you be disappointed. The notion of killing people for converting out of Islam makes for a great 60 minutes piece, but in reality I'll bet it happens about as frequently as a Christian bombs an abortion clinic.

2007-01-09 10:22:57 · answer #2 · answered by Berzirk 3 · 0 1

Yep, it written correct right here within the Quran verse four:89. Death for apostasy: Sura four:89 They lengthy that ye will have to disbelieve while they disbelieve, that ye could also be upon a degree (with them). So decide on no longer peers from them until they forsake their houses in the way in which of Allah; in the event that they flip again (to enmity) then take them and kill them anywhere ye discover them, and decide on no pal nor helper from amongst them,”

2016-09-03 19:12:46 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Islam is a barbaric cult:

Death for apostasy:
Sura 4:89 They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them,”

2007-01-09 10:03:20 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 3

It IS hypocritical to believe in free will and then get upset when someone leaves your religion.

2007-01-16 15:47:27 · answer #5 · answered by D 3 · 0 0

Sounds like a religion that doesn't have a sense of humor.

2007-01-17 09:29:17 · answer #6 · answered by boatworker 4 · 0 0

We can't go out and kill everyone who leaves Islam as they're hard to find and we're not suppossed to use violence. Their death is for ALLAH to decide not Muslims.

2007-01-09 10:11:34 · answer #7 · answered by robedzombiesoul 4 · 0 2

Your ignorance is comedy. We are not allowed to kill unless we are defending ourselves... Only people like Osama Bin Laden and other wanna be Muslims who have nothing better to do but kill people in the name of religion make it seem like that... and they distort the words of the Quran like the other guy that posted here. If you want, ask me personally.

Kevin

2007-01-09 10:10:05 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 3

because that is how it works- ever heard of a jumping in? it is a term used in gangs- they beat you into the gang- but when you try to leave they kill you-

not a good or positive things is it?

2007-01-09 10:17:08 · answer #9 · answered by BubbleGumBoobs! 6 · 0 2

How many true (emphasize the 'true') Muslims do you know personally, or have proof, that have actually done this ?

2007-01-09 10:12:37 · answer #10 · answered by myself 2 · 1 1

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