Can anybody help me about self baptism before meals in repentance and for cleansing, who does this please?

Question

In the gospel of John we see both John the Baptizer (who was Jesus ' teacher) and also Jesus holding separate baptism campaigns (John 3 v 22-24)
And also
It is clear from Jewish texts of the time that Peter and others Baptised themselves before eating vegetarian meals (yes Jesus his family, and extended family of disciples, where all vegetarians obeying the command you shall not kill anything I am who I am has made.
Does any body still keep this most beautiful tradition please?
It seems to have got rather lost in church theology.

Answer 1

No, Jesus was not a vegetarian. The Bible records Jesus eating fish (Luke 24:42-43) and lamb (Luke 22:8-15). Jesus miraculously fed the crowds fish and bread, a strange thing for Him to do if He was a vegetarian (Matthew 14:17-21). In a vision to the Apostle Peter Jesus declared all foods to be clean, including animals (Acts 10:10-15).

You don't need to continuously re-baptize yourself, one time is enough. Baptism is a sacrament between you and God. Once you have "washed away" your sins and accepted the Holy Spirit into your soul. Did God not do it right the 1st time? it is the same as repenting for a sin, once you have done so, God doesn't want to hear about it again to keep bringing it up would be the same as telling God you don't believe he has forgiven you

Answer 2

Some teach that the Baptism of John was not the same, because "water and spirit" are never separated regarding baptism, and Jesus had not yet ascended to the Father making the Descent of the Holy Spirit possible.

There is a minor tradition in the Catholic Church where holy water is used upon entering and leaving, but that is not baptism.
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/sacramentals.html

The cleansing rituals the Jews practiced uses the same word as baptism, but it has a different meaning in the Christian sense of the sacrament of baptism.

Matt. 20:22-23; Mark 10:38-39; Luke 12:50 - Jesus also talks about His baptism (from "baptizo") of blood, which was shed and sprinkled in His passion. But this baptism does not (and cannot) mean immersion.

Mark 7:3 - the Pharisees do not eat unless they wash ("baptizo" ) their hands. This demonstrates that "baptizo" does not always mean immersion. It can mean pouring water over something (in this case, over their hands).

Mark 7:4 - we see that the Jews washed ("bapto" from baptizo) cups, pitchers and vessels, but this does not mean that they actually immersed these items. Also, some manuscripts say the Jews also washed (bapto) couches, yet they did not immerse the couches, they only sprinkled them.

Luke 11:38 - Jesus had not washed ("ebaptisthe") His hands before dinner. Here, the derivative of "baptizo" just means washing up, not immersing.

Acts 2:41 - at Peter's first sermon, 3,000 were baptized. There is archeological proof that immersion would have been impossible in this area. Instead, these 3,000 people had to be sprinkled in water baptism.

Acts 8:38 - because the verse says they "went down into the water," many Protestants say this is proof that baptism must be done by immersion. But the verb to describe Phillip and the eunuch going down into the water is the same verb ("katabaino") used in Acts 8:26 to describe the angel's instruction to Phillip to stop his chariot and go down to Gaza. The word has nothing to do with immersing oneself in water.

http://www.scripturecatholic.com/baptism.html

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Answer 3

Baptism is derived from the Mikveh (sp?) bath, which is a Jewish tradition, performed to cleanse and purify oneself under all sorts of circumstances, especially after one had been made "unclean" by a particular circumstance of life. For example, a woman would traditionally take a ritual bath every month when her period is over. Some very traditional Jews still practice this regularly, and I remember reading a couple of years back that the Mikveh was making a comeback within contemporary Jewish circles as well.

There are other groups that use ritual baths, though I can't think of specifics right now, except for the "dunking" after a sauna or sweat lodge.

As far as I know, most Christians view baptism as a once-in-a-lifetime event (or twice in a lifetime for anabaptists, such as Mennonites, who baptise children as a precautionary measure and then rebaptise adults when they come to it of their mature free will), but that doesn't mean you can't develop your own bathing ritual if it helps you to get closer to your God, especially as your post seems to suggest that you are already practicing a sort of self-guided spiritual journey.

Answer 4

John the Baptist was baptising people to prepare them for the coming of Jesus. The people were being baptised out of repentance. He was not Jesus's teacher, he was Jesus's cousin, who came to prepare the way for him. God didn't require people to be vegetarians. He just said not to eat anything unclean, and everything unclean was made clean through Jesus. All through the bible, people are recorded eating meat. There were laws about it in Leviticus, people couldn't eat meat with the blood still in it, and things like that, but nowhere is there record of vegitarianism. Water baptism is meant for people who are saved, to wash away their old life and way of living. After Jesus died, people also recieve the baptism of the Holy Spirit. Just read the bible, you'll find all the answers you're looking for.

Answer 5

john the baptizer was not jesus' teacher, he was the voice in the wilderness preparing the way for jesus. jonh baptized with water but jesus baptized with the spirit. some meats were also acceptable to eat within the jewish community and it is absurd to think everyone was vegetarian. besides the dietary laws of the old testament do not apply to us,the children of the new covenant made between god and humanity through jesus who perfected the laws and conquered death for our salvation, go ahead and repent before your meals, if you even want to be vegetarian go for it buit what you are saying isn't tradition lost in church theology.

Answer 6

You have an advantage over the majority of Christians, you have read Jewish texts, AND the Bible. The obvious suggestion you are making, supports an Essenic Jesus, a commonly held view, that would include vegetarianism, strict hygiene and ritual cleansing, and laws governing celibacy. Essenes (or those claiming to be) still exist, but it is doubtful that any follow such a strict purity code.

Answer 7

You can not baptize yourself,it would be an empty gesture, but hey you do what you want God gave you the ability to choose between good and evil...your theology is not even remotely acceptable to the orthodox church/ the word of God..as a Catholic I say grace before a meal, the sacrament of repentance is vital to me, why are you so opposed to what organized religion has to offer? a sense of community is beautiful, does that interest you?

Answer 8

Peace!
They were not baptising themselves. The Jews have a ritual called purification. Jesus and the 12 disciples were all Jewish. According to their religious beliefs, certain things were clean or unclean so they were required to purify themselves after touching such things. For example a woman who was having a menstruation was considered unclean. I think God told them to do this for sanitary reasons more than anything else. I you want to know more about this ask a practising Jew or a rabbi.
God bless!

Answer 9

They were not vegitarians, Jesus ate and served fish and they also had a lamb at the last supper. You dont have to eat meat if you dont want to, but dont start telling people Jesus and His Disciples didnt.

Answer 10

Er, what about the loaves and fishes? Fish isn't all that vegetarian?!?!