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To the atheists who say they used to be Christians. Did you receive Christ and have fellowship with God? If so, how do you support your argument that God is absolutely non-existent if you used to know Him like you say?

2007-01-09 06:40:29 · 20 answers · asked by the BREEZE 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

**so far no one is really answering my question. If you KNEW GOD and spoke to him and had a relationship with him, it's something that you KNOW. How do you go from knowing, feeling, and seeing God move to saying he is just non existent?

2007-01-09 06:50:17 · update #1

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The problem with the question is that anyone who was an ex-christian never was. They may have been in the church but they were not part of the church therefore not a christian. Im sorry if that hard for you to understand. It just that real christians can't conform to atheists.

2007-01-09 07:04:11 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 3

Your question is irrelevant and illogical. Why does the xian always use word play like fellowship and relationship?

Why do xians always think that atheists have some personal issue instead of facing the fact that the fable does not stand up to reality? It has nothing to do with not having enough faith or not having a personal relationship with god. God should stand up to all scrutiny and all inquiry and come out with flying colors. The reality is that anyone who takes a look at the claims of xianity with an unbiased eye will see that it is all nonsensical.

I am an ex-youth minister so I know all the apologetics and all the answers that pastors will give. None of them work in the real world. It is all a fantasy, as you learn more about the world aroudn you it will become painfully obvious that god is a myth, no different than Zeus or Osirus.

2007-01-09 15:09:04 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

I knew God as well as anyone else. I was a teen, so I took my churches evidence as proof. I hadn't learned to question enough yet. Everyone at church said the spirit shone through me, I talked to God all the time. He was the biggest thing in my life. I really tried to be like Jesus.
Looking back I know I was not talking to God, I was finding God within myself. I believe in a higher being, but not the God of the bible. I believe that particular God does not exist. That God is not the God I knew, even though I thought it was at the time. Christianity appealed to me because of the stories I learned about Jesus helping people, and being peaceful and not judging, but once I read more of the bible I realized the bible's God was wrong.

To sum it up, I think many Christians do have experiences with God, I don't think God interferes but you can draw strength from him/her, and God comes in many forms, but the bible's concept is horribly wrong.

2007-01-09 14:59:29 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Ex-christian...atheist now. I grew up and got an education. I began doubting at an early age. Tried really, REALLY hard for many years to be a good christian. As I got older, the doubts became stronger. I started reading more and more trying to find myself. Since I have become an theist I am happier than I ever was before. Common sense tells me there is not god. Now religion just seems so ridiculous. Sorry if that seems harsh, but that is the way I feel.

Edit:
To answer your additional details...I guess at times I "felt" something that at the time I imagined as the holy spirit. But I know now that it was just a symptom of mass hysteria. Something that I believe all christians feel when they THINK they are communicating with god. Sorry to burst your bubble, so to speak.

2007-01-09 14:48:14 · answer #4 · answered by Stormilutionist Chasealogist 6 · 1 1

*sigh* I may have THOUGHT that I had a relationship with God and Christ. Just because I was indoctrinated into believing this doesn't mean deities exist. I truly believed that a god existed to listen to prayers and watch over me, but that was a BELIEF. Believing in something doesn't make it real.

Children used to KNOW that they had monsters under their bed. They ABSOLUTELY KNEW IT. Some children get so frightened that they can't sleep through the night. Some cry out to their parents and insist that the parents search under the bed so that the monsters will run away.

Those monsters don't exist, but those children truly believed they did. Don't tell me that those monsters really did exist just because people really and truly have believed in them......

Just like those children, I grew up. I educated myself. I moved beyond the religious indoctrination that I'd been trained to believe since childhood and into a deeper, genuine understanding of how the world really works. I once BELIEVED and that belief allowed me to think I "knew" something that is impossible to "know".

Yes. I was wrong in my belief. Being wrong once does not indicate being wrong in all things. Learning and growing means giving up old, false ideas and arriving at the truth. That's what I did.

2007-01-09 14:48:14 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 9 0

I knew God, yes. I accepted him, yes. Then one day I realized that I'd actually been talking to myself all that time. I don't believe God exists.

But, yes, I was once a very devout Christian - probably more so than most of the ones on this board because I didn't presume to judge the validity of someone's faith. The Bible says only God knows what's in our hearts and I believed that at one time. You clearly do not.

2007-01-09 15:00:31 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

I used to be Christian. I don't know what you mean by "receive Christ" or by "have fellowship with god". Can you define that in layman's terms? I never claimed to "know him". I have no idea what that means in relation to someone you can't see or hear. I do know that I believed in god and Jesus wholeheartedly. I accepted Jesus as my savior. I believed the whole deal - until I was maybe 12 or 13. That qualifies me as having been a Christian.

I had no trauma as a child, no death in the family, no painful illness, no crisis. I simply used thought and logic.

2007-01-09 15:04:36 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Not all Ex-Christians are Atheists. I'm a Asatruar. To answer your question, yes I did "receive Christ" etc... But the more I studied the bible the more I found it alie to my soul and the god of the bible to be immoral. I don't disbelieve your god exists, I choose not to worship him on moral grounds. I have found better gods and I since have converted to a different religion. And don't say I didn't answer your question, because I have.

2007-01-09 14:50:02 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

NOBODY "knows" Jesus "personally", which is what is really necessary according to your biased "logic". To have a "fellowship" you have to be on some form of communication level which is impossible with both Jesus and your version of a creator god. Therefore your claim that one cannot become atheist based on THAT twisted logic is moot.

You might actually benefit from opening your mind up and getting a real education in logic and critical thinking.

_()_

2007-01-09 14:52:33 · answer #9 · answered by vinslave 7 · 1 0

I was baptized Roman Catholic, started Catholic school at the age of five, went to Mass every Friday and Sunday for about ten years, then every Sunday for another ten years. I believed in God completely, and I accepted, without question, everything that I had been taught. I was a very well-behaved, very devout little Christian, let there be no mistake about it.

Then I went to university and got an education. I realized that I didn't "know Him", as you put it, but had in fact been BRAINWASHED by my parents, other relatives, and clergy. I realized after another few years that I could no longer cling to my delusions, and I stopped believing in the existence of God.

2007-01-09 14:50:11 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

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