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the pres is going to sighn a bill to give away our soc security to illigal mexican aliens. this will drain all the fund. No money left for American s.

2007-01-09 02:45:14 · 14 answers · asked by stop robbing our soc security 1 in Politics & Government Immigration

14 answers

You are sadly deluded...that isn't happening, and isn't likely to happen.

2007-01-09 02:48:58 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 5

In addition to congress I think it is very important to let the national media know we expect to be given fair and unbiased information on illegal immigration! This is the only source of information for some Americans. I sincerely hope the complacency of some can be attributed to lack of knowledge...did you see anything on the national news about the assault on the National Guard on the border, the Totalization Agreement (SS for illegals) or that Homeland Security's catch & release program is still going strong for Mexicans? I thought not, I didn't either! I know it is asking alot but right after contacting congress that Attrition thru Enforcement is the only way please go to the websites of ABC, CBS & NBC and demand both sides of the story - all have a "contact us" option. Then if you still have energy write to your local newspaper (generally, this can also be done on-line) It is imperative to get all middle-class Americans informed and involved...this is what our government and congress do not want! Stand up for our country and our future generations.....PLEASE...
Middle-class Americans need representation!
Congress is back in session today..tell them No Amnesty (by any name) Attrition thru Enforcement only....
http://www.senate.gov
http://www.house.gov

2007-01-09 03:16:46 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

no one could be desirous to grant unlawful extraterrestrial beings some thing, no longer even jobs. it really is time for the silent majority to face shoulder to shoulder and concern an ultimatum to the powers that be. THE ILLEGALS could flow. We, as a u . s ., can no longer cope with the various social ills that we at present face alongside with illiteracy, illigitimacy, homelessness, etc. The Illegals will in consumer-friendly words worsen those already modern issues. very last yet no longer least, WHAT portion of unlawful am I failing to appreciate. no matter if it really is okay to disobey immigration regulations, then it really is going to be okay to disobey the different regulations. And why could I honestly could learn Spanish or the different language. human beings could set up English because the nationwide language. a number of out electorate have issues of English. what is going to be happening in the experience that they could learn Spanish? you do not could be a rocket scientist to appreciate the numerous adverse ramifications. GOD help u . s . of america!!!!

2016-12-28 12:45:20 · answer #3 · answered by bhrkat 3 · 0 0

Actually its not for illegal aliens.Its for the illegal aliens that may (or may not) be given amnesty only them.And they can prove they worked here in the USA for at least 18 months and 10 years in Mexico.Those are the facts.

By Stephen Dinan
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
January 4, 2007

An agreement the Bush administration reached with Mexico on Social Security benefits would allow illegal aliens granted amnesty in the future to claim credit for the time they worked illegally.

The deal was reached in 2004 but never released publicly because it hasn't been submitted to Congress. The TREA Senior Citizens League, a Social Security advocacy group, recently obtained the document through a Freedom of Information Act, and said it confirms the group's worst fears.

The document is a jumble of definitions and legal language, but a spokesman for the group said what's important is what's not in the text: It does nothing to prevent undocumented aliens who later get legal status from receiving benefits for the time they worked illegally. And that comes as the Social Security system's finances are about to be put under greater strain by the retirement of baby boomers.

"If you open up the trust fund to people who have been working in the country illegally for many years, that bankruptcy date can only come sooner," spokesman Brad Phillips said. "People on the other side of this, people who have been arguing that of course illegal aliens can't get their hands on Social Security benefits, now can't make that argument easily anymore."

But Mark Lassiter, a spokesman for the Social Security Administration, said the agreement doesn't change U.S. law. The law states that those who do not have authorization to work will not get benefits under a totalization agreement.

Topics: Illegal Immigration, Social Security, illegal aliens, illegal immigrants, George Bush, Mexico, Social Security Administration

"To get Social Security benefits, you do have to be legally in the United States. This agreement does not address in any way immigration, immigration laws or override current law," he said, adding that a 2004 law, the Social Security Protection Act, prevents illegal aliens from getting benefits.

But the seniors group said the 2004 law also states that if those aliens later get legal status -- through an amnesty or some sort of legalization plan such as the one President Bush and the Senate tried to enact last year -- they would be able to collect the benefits based on their time as illegal workers.

The deal has not taken effect because Mr. Bush has not signed it or submitted it to Congress. Once he does, Congress would have 60 days to vote against it or it automatically would become law.

Congress has never defeated any of the 21 other totalization agreements the United States has reached. Most of those have been with European nations, with the financial effects known to be smaller.

Some lawmakers say Mr. Bush has not submitted the agreement because it would get caught up in the debate over Social Security's poor fiscal health, which could doom the measure.

Totalization agreements end double taxation, so workers have to pay only into one country's system, and allow a worker who didn't have enough credits in any one country to qualify for benefits to pool his or her credits. In the United States, it takes 10 years, or 40 quarters, to qualify.

Mr. Lassiter said that's not to say Mexican workers who spent less time, such as the six quarters minimum needed to pool credits, would get benefits equal to someone who had worked his or her full life here.

As for the document's status, he said the Social Security Administration hasn't submitted it to the State Department because officials are still waiting for the Mexican government to help reach a side agreement on how to treat illegal aliens. The United States sent a diplomatic note trying to clarify the situation but has not heard back from the Mexican government, he said.

"At this point, there's no action that is planned or that will be taken until that process goes through," Mr. Lassiter said.

Rafael Laveaga, a spokesman for the Mexican Embassy in Washington, said the agreement has to be ratified by the Mexican Congress as well, but beyond that he had no details to offer.

The issue has been contentious for several years.

A 2003 report by the General Accounting Office, Congress' investigative branch, said the agreement with Mexico was shoddy work that didn't investigate the reliability of Mexico's data, or take into account the millions of illegal aliens who would become eligible.

The GAO also disputed the Social Security Administration's estimate that the agreement would cost $105 million a year for the first five years, saying the costs could be much higher given the uncertainty of who could benefit.

2007-01-09 02:55:10 · answer #4 · answered by Yakuza 7 · 4 0

Is he now? Are you sure?

You could stop him in this event the same way as in any other. Call your representative and tell him you don't support the bill. Maybe if your representative in Congress here's that from enough of his constituents he'll vote against it. If enough people vote against it, it won't make it to the Pres. Its that simple.
Understand your rights.

2007-01-09 02:50:22 · answer #5 · answered by T 3 · 4 0

Contact your U.S. Representative and let them know how you feel about the Immigration Bill. The Senate has already passed their bill it was done on May 25, 2006.

2007-01-09 03:12:02 · answer #6 · answered by Chillin-it 7 · 1 0

I give up and am saving my cardboard. Trying to adapt to a rice and bean diet. I am still trying but is difficult to throw my garbage in the street. Maybe if I get my Che Guevara t shirt.

2007-01-09 02:57:18 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 4 0

First you should get well informed before stating something like that. Bush cannot not even legalize all illegals you think he is going to give away money.

2007-01-09 03:11:07 · answer #8 · answered by Scarlet 3 · 1 2

Impeachment!

2007-01-09 03:23:23 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

I don't know how you are getting Social Security is going to iilegals as they only pay into it, they don't take money out!

The only reason the social security fund is being drained is the government steals from it, which it isn't their money, and never pays it back!

What is the bill number?

2007-01-09 02:54:19 · answer #10 · answered by cantcu 7 · 2 4

PROTEST. bush is already wanting to do away with social security. he is only letting them people bring this country down. all because jeb bush couldn't keep it in his pants.

2007-01-09 02:51:35 · answer #11 · answered by monreda 4 · 5 0

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