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Why did God give man free will AND the 10 commandments? - so you can act freely BUT if you don't obey the commandments, you go to hell for eternity. It's like a teacher saying to her students "I have to leave the room for a few minutes, but I'll be outside. Do whatever you want to do but, if you break a rule, you'll be suspended"

Answer 1

lol you're question and logic makes a ton of sense seriously

Answer 2

lol, I think I know who the mizer you are referring too

this link says a lot

but ultimately it's like someone had to invent a story to justify the next story and tell us we need to buy their product because of said story "or else" but didn't quite check the logic and only those not afraid and generally a bit smarter catch it



Christianity was the ultimate product of religious syncretism in the ancient world. Its emergence owed nothing to a holy carpenter. There were many Jesuses but the fable was a cultural construct. Nazareth did not exist in the 1st century AD – the area was a burial ground of rock-cut tombs. Following a star would lead you in circles. The 12 disciples are as fictitious as their master, invented to legitimise the claims of the early churches. The original Mary was not a virgin. That idea was borrowed from pagan goddesses.

Scholars have known all this for more than 200 years but priestcraft is a highly profitable business and finances an industry of deceit to keep the show on the road. "Jesus better documented than any other ancient figure" ? Don't believe a word of it. Unlike the mythical Jesus, a real historical figure like Julius Caesar has a mass of mutually supporting evidence.

Answer 3

The commandments, as the rest of the OT, were given to man for several reasons, but not so that they could keep them. One of them is to reflect, as far as we can understand with our limitations, the holiness of God. The other (according to the book of Romans) is to show us that we are sinful. For the same reason, Jesus gave the sermon on the mount, not to tell us how to live, but to demonstrate that no man COULD live that way.

Only when you know you are sick will you go to the doctor. In the same way, only when you know that you are sinful will you seek the one cure - God's. Anybody who says "I keep the commandments" or "I follow the sermon on the mount" doesn't even know they're sick.

Thankfully, when we do realize we're sick, God is there to cure us. Every one of us - me certainly included - will choose hell given the chance. But God picked me up and saved me, and He will do the same for you. Are you willing?

Answer 4

You need to read the "whole" Bible which says "All sin and fall short of the glory of God". No one goes to Hell for sinning or breaking the 10 commandments. Jesus died already for those sins. Keeping out of hell, or as I like to think of it, going to heaven... can be attained by believing in Jesus died for your sins and commiting your life to Him. You will still sin, but through a living relationship with Christ, you will more readily recognize and be able to avoid sin in the future.

Answer 5

And yet you still have the CHOICE to do whatever you want to also don't you. But yet you may not think you do because you don't want to suffer the consequences of the action that you WANT to do. At no point did the teacher say "No you cannot do that" all the teacher said is that there will be a consequence if you do.

Answer 6

You've got it, this is a classic double bind like act naturally, be spontaneous, try to relax, and the greatest one of all "The First and Greatest Commandment "You must love God." Many religions have these kind of intellectually challenging issues, and to pursue them you need to be able to live with these kind of things.

Answer 7

Strawman fallacy:

You assume that "If you don't follow the 10 commandments, then you go to Hell".

Under your premise, every one but Jesus would go to Hell.

Bad premise:

The 10 commandments were good advice for a whole host of reasons; for the Israelites and for most Governments to some extent.

Your analogy is also a strawman fallacy. A better analogy would be, "if you don't follow the rules, you will probably not learn the subject matter, and consequently do poorly on the exam."

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Answer 8

That is what we call FREE AGENCY. We become the victims of our own wrong desires. Moreover, we live in an age when many simply refuse to feel responsible for themselves.
Some seek to brush aside conscience, refusing to hear its voice. But that deflection is, in itself, an act of choice, because we so desired.

God will facilitate, but He will not force.

This ‘something’ called free agency is ‘everything’. We fought for it. We are divinely entitled to it, offered it by a loving Father in heaven. We are responsible for it. How we use it is up to us. And it is no one else’s ‘fault’ if we choose to use it unwisely. The responsibility rests squarely on our own shoulders.

This ‘something’ called free agency is ‘everything’. We fought for it. We are divinely entitled to it, offered it by a loving Father in heaven. We are responsible for it. How we use it is up to us. And it is no one else’s ‘fault’ if we choose to use it unwisely. The responsibility rests squarely on our own shoulders.

Also it is the same thing if you are a parent and give your children the rules with the rewards and consequences of disobeying them. Now you leave to go someplace, do you not expect them to obey those rules, and if they disobey those rules are you NOT going to punish them?

Answer 9

He gave us Free Will because he loves us and he gave us the Ten Commandments because he doesnt want us to hurt ourselves.

It's like a parent letting their kid ride a bike for the first time and giving them a helmet for safety.

Answer 10

our salvation is not determined by the law. the law was not written to give life. It is a guideline just like the law of the land you obey everyday

Answer 11

Well, even as an atheist, this one makes sense to me.

In Holland, where I live, we have free speech. That's a freedom. But if I abuse that freedom to incite violence, then I get punished.

To me that makes perfect sense. There is no freedom possible without at least a law to give it common sense.