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This is an answer that I just received.

"Life changing research? So to you the convenience of the living justifies the death of the unborn?"

So tell me, were these "unborn" actually going to ever be born anyway?

2007-01-08 10:39:05 · 12 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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The problem is that it's not a simpler matter of ignorance requiring education. If I don't know that 1+1=2, you can teach me. If I firmly believe that 1+1=3, you're going to have a hard time "educating" me otherwise.

There's an awful lot we write off to ignorance, that isn't so much a matter of ignorance. Racism is usually called ignorance, but usually racists have all the same information we have, they just don't care. The same goes for a lot of things...

2007-01-08 10:51:29 · answer #1 · answered by STFU Dude 6 · 2 0

To answer your first question: Technically, it's ONLY the ignorant who can be educated, since they know nothing. Those who know something are already educated.

To answer your last question: If you're referring to the embryos used in stem cell research, the answer is no. Those are literally leftovers.

To answer the other guy's question -- nah, I'm not gonna go there.

2007-01-08 10:43:13 · answer #2 · answered by ? 7 · 1 0

Looks to me like you're just ranting at people that demand that abortion is wrong.

People learn in many ways. For those people that suggest that their children are spontaneously born with the cultural and social information they possess, I recommend they lock their newborn children in a cell and only provide creature necessities. Why bother teaching them anything? They already know it all.

On the other hand, people like me think all newborns are basically ignorant with a few natural tendencies based out of physical design. I think it's possible out of mistreating a child to create an adult that still has never learned to walk, doesn't know how to speak, and screams and throws temper tantrums. A great deal has to do with control of resources. If you have no control over feeding and providing necessities, then you're liable to be ineffective. School, of course, doesn't have these tools at hand, so they offer some more esoteric rewards like being able to be employed in the future.

But a definitive change in someone's religious stance on abortion? It would maybe take this: a traumatic situation involving the life or death of a loved one that could only be solved through an abortion and in which there was no chance of saving the child. In fact, this sort of case happened when a pro-life administrator refused an abortion to a rich conservative woman. Both child and mother died and the family sued for malpractice when they learned that at least one life could have been spared. It went to higher courts and probably cemented case law and, as I have heard some lawyers say, gave Roe v. Wade some teeth in civil suits. Many cases like that one have, over the years, probably entrenched Roe v. Wade to the point of being unassailable, but Republican politicians would never admit it because they know they can milk pro-lifers for votes on an issue they can never make much progress. I doubt they will ever fess up - especially since they can give their base a few cookies through minor actions at the state level, but at the national level the battle is - for all the squabbling over it - over.

And I can understand the temptation. Imagine if you had a million people giving you $1 each to do something you know you can't accomplish and with the reassurance that they will each give you another $1 AND try to convince more people to do the same - even though you make NO progress on the goal! So let's say a million Iraqi Sunnis give you $1 US to put Saddam Hussein back in power. Apparently they insist that the recent execution was a staged fake. They will keep giving you the money as long as you declare that you are doing everything you can to put Saddam Hussein back in power (which you realize is absolutely nothing). They are so firm in their belief that Saddam Hussein should be put back in power and that he is still alive so that it can be done and they want it SO badly that they are willing to tolerate all sorts of insults:

1. Sending their children off to wars they don't really care about to be killed.

2. Having staff that mess around with minors despite your supporters saying it's horrifically wrong.

3. Cutting opportunites to improve one's own or one's children's lives so that you can better line your own pockets.

The list could go on and on I suppose, but you really should see what an incredibly temptation it is when you have such thoughtless cows to milk. And that's how guys like D'nesh D'sousa, Ann Coulter, and Rush Limbaugh see them in real life. I learned this from listening to some of them speak in person. The real motto of the Republican party should be "a sucker is born every minute."

Anyhow, for those that didn't get it before, now you know. I was scratching my head for a long time wondering how some people as educated as they are could talk so much trash, but now I realize that it's a matter of a lack of ethics, not intellect. Or maybe I should say that it's an embracing of the most anti-christian ethics I have ever heard of in place of real christian values. Oh, sure, the voters are christian and believe, but the politicians know they are duping them. I've seen one scam like that too many. Really, I feel sorry for the christians being so gullible and forgiving - they apparently make great doormats.

2007-01-08 11:08:52 · answer #3 · answered by Cheshire Cat 6 · 0 1

it's completely possible to educate the ignorant, but not the stupid.

now i don't understand the second part of the question. are you talking about abortion or embryonic stem cell research. Now if you're talking about abortion, they were going to be born IF YOU HADN'T ABORTED THEM!! if you're talking about stem cell research, their entire purpose is to die before mature, so the weren't ever going to be born because they didn't develope inside a womb, they developed in a test tube.

2007-01-08 10:45:34 · answer #4 · answered by Shamus O'Larry 4 · 1 0

The trick is to ensure people aren't ignorant in the first place. As soon as it's taken hold, not very much can be done...

2007-01-08 10:41:42 · answer #5 · answered by Psyleet 3 · 0 0

If your question is a serious one, then yes, you can teach the ignorant, but you must identify with and care about their education first.------no comment about the other question you are referring to.

2007-01-08 10:45:12 · answer #6 · answered by ? 6 · 0 0

The only thing about it is that the retard that gave you that answer is not only under the impression that it was an insigtful statement that made you think, but, that inbred dingleberry is PROUD of it. THAT is the problem. That douche thinks that he/she is the one educating you.

2007-01-08 10:46:07 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

The word ignorant is stupid and over-used. It's thrown around at everyone who disagrees over a race/religious/sexual question. It's stupid and its a weak attack to use on someone you disagree with.

2007-01-08 10:42:26 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Q)Is there any way to educate the ignorant?

A)only if they have the desire to learn!

2007-01-08 10:41:51 · answer #9 · answered by revdauphinee 4 · 0 0

Not if you kill em.

There are two kinds of people ingorant and stupid.

Those who don't know are ingorant and can be taught.

Those who are stupid don't know and can't be taught.

Since you are calling them ignorant what does that make you?

2007-01-08 10:53:41 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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