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i have wondered this for about 2 years

2007-01-08 04:18:48 · 28 answers · asked by angle f 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

there is no prof that god dosen't exist. nothing inthe bible has been proven wrong. some right

2007-01-08 04:22:49 · update #1

28 answers

No proof. Burden of proof has not been met by believers.

Contradictory and impossible traits attributed to this "God" thing.

"God" isn't even properly defined for goodness sake.

2007-01-08 04:22:08 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Let me explain this in a simple comparison.

Let us say that you are a christian. That means you believe in one god (or a trinity or something, depends on your confession). But it also means that you do not believe in all the other gods humans believe in or have believed in throughout history. There is an enormous pantheon of gods you do not believe in. Of course, there is no evidence that these other gods exist. But also, there is no evidence that these other gods do NOT exist. Just the same as with the one god you have decided to believe in.

Now, we atheists just go one tiny step further. We do not only disbelieve in 99,9 % of all the gods. We disbelieve 100% of all the gods. No more and no less. Not really such a big difference, if you look at it this way.

2007-01-08 12:36:57 · answer #2 · answered by NaturalBornKieler 7 · 0 0

I believe that there is no God. I'm beyond atheism. Atheism is not believing in God. Not believing in God is easy -- you can't prove a negative, so there's no work to do. You can't prove that there isn't an elephant inside the trunk of my car. You sure? How about now? Maybe he was just hiding before. Check again. Did I mention that my personal heartfelt definition of the word "elephant" includes mystery, order, goodness, love and a spare tire?

So, anyone with a love for truth outside of herself has to start with no belief in God and then look for evidence of God. She needs to search for some objective evidence of a supernatural power. All the people I write e-mails to often are still stuck at this searching stage. The atheism part is easy.

Having taken that step, it informs every moment of my life. I'm not greedy. I have love, blue skies, rainbows and Hallmark cards, and that has to be enough. It has to be enough, but it's everything in the world and everything in the world is plenty for me. It seems just rude to beg the invisible for more. Just the love of my family that raised me and the family I'm raising now is enough that I don't need heaven. I won the huge genetic lottery and I get joy every day.

Believing there's no God means I can't really be forgiven except by kindness and faulty memories. That's good; it makes me want to be more thoughtful. I have to try to treat people right the first time around.

Believing there's no God stops me from being solipsistic. I can read ideas from all different people from all different cultures. Without God, we can agree on reality, and I can keep learning where I'm wrong. We can all keep adjusting, so we can really communicate. I don't travel in circles where people say, "I have faith, I believe this in my heart and nothing you can say or do can shake my faith." That's just a long-winded religious way to say, "shut up," or another two words that the FCC likes less. But all obscenity is less insulting than, "How I was brought up and my imaginary friend means more to me than anything you can ever say or do." So, believing there is no God lets me be proven wrong and that's always fun. It means I'm learning something.

Believing there is no God means the suffering I've seen in my family, and indeed all the suffering in the world, isn't caused by an omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent force that isn't bothered to help or is just testing us, but rather something we all may be able to help others with in the future. No God means the possibility of less suffering in the future.

Believing there is no God gives me more room for belief in family, people, love, truth, beauty, sex, Jell-O and all the other things I can prove and that make this life the best life I will ever have.

2007-01-08 12:22:52 · answer #3 · answered by Crozzlow 3 · 2 0

Numerous details --

1. An awareness that the Bible, as it exists, was dictated by men, who while maybe devoted to God, could not have entirely avoided bias (it is psychologically impossible for a human to avoid bias, though we can try to minimize its influence).

2. Reading the books that didn't make it and studying the archeology of those books (For example, many archeologists place the Gospel of St. Thomas as the closest Gospel to the time of Jesus's life, close enough that it could have been written by a first-hand witness).

3. Realization that everything described as a miracle in the Bible in a miraculous or glorious way could be described with simpler, naturalistic principles.

4. Realization that if all things can be described naturalistically, there is no need for a deity, and thus, Occam's razor.

5. Realization that Jesus failed to meet the prophecies of the messiah.

moving on to the non-Christian reasoning...

6. Realization of the archeological studies regarding the origins and developments of religions proved they were subject to evolutionary effects as well, under the Meme theory posited by Richard Dawkins (which I consider valid because of research done as part of my Psychology degree course work).

7. Realization that very few religions, if any, contain self-correcting measures to deal with changing understanding of the world.

8. Realization of the illogic of a deity -- the deist version seems apathetic, and there are flaws in every known story of theistic versions.

10. Realization of the lack of evidence of a deity.



I could probably go on but the rest would be nit picking.

2007-01-08 12:20:52 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

Most often, its for one of two reasons:

1) There is some tragedy in their past (the untimely loss of a loved one, for example) that seems to them to be at odds with the idea of a loving God (or gods). In a more general way, some see the inhumanity of man--especially when supported or promoted by religious people (like teright-wing religious in the US or the Islamic extremists) as evidence religion is a fake.

The second reason is that many people say that, since science has no proof that God exists, the concept must be no more than a primitive superstition. These people misunderstand science just as much as the "fundamentalists" who think science is somehow hostile to religion. Properly understood, science deals only with the empirical--the physical universe--and can only answer questions about that. The question of God's existance--as well as a lot of other important issues--is simply something science is not equipped to deal with one way or the other.

2007-01-08 12:29:39 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

They want the kind of physical evidence that simply cannot be found. To me if evidence cannot be found there is a powerful but not conclusive argument that it does not exist. The non-discovery of evidence can also be a sign of a flawed search technique. That is why I am an Agnostic. I simply do not know the answer to the question "is there a God" but can find no way to conclusively establish the point one way or the other.

2007-01-08 12:23:59 · answer #6 · answered by Tony B 6 · 1 0

Lots of the bible has been proven wrong. The world-wide flood, in fact, the whole creation myth.

Why do you disbelieve in Zeus? Or Odin? I just disbelieve in one more god than yourself.

2007-01-08 12:25:36 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

In short, no proof of a god.

To put it in a way that might help you understand. Why do you NOT believe in Zeus? (seriously) I don't believe in your god, for the same reasons you don't believe in that god.

As to the whole "didn't some magical being have to start this whole universe going/ wasn't some magical being required to design us?" -- Those questions stumped me for a while until I realized that...answering them with "goddidit" wasn't an answer at all! If all events (the universe) require a cause, then WHO caused god? If all beings require a designer, WHO designed god?

Hope that helps.

2007-01-08 12:20:07 · answer #8 · answered by Laptop Jesus 4 · 3 0

You would think you might have opened a text book in those two years.

EDIT: NOTHING IN THE BIBLE HAS EVER BEEN PROVEN WRONG?

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Due to it's complexity, Christianity has the most proof against it's authenticity

Hell I'll start with the first thing off my mind
-In genesis, it says the moon gives off its own light
(Wrong, it is a reflection)

2007-01-08 12:20:19 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 5 0

i dont understand they couldent beleive in god and jesus because the bible tells us we were created in gods own image he hung the stars in the heavens sientist talk about the big bang they say thats how everything was formed but im here to tell you thats false because it like a person that writes up bluprints to build a house theres no way we was formed from a big bang it took an ultimate being to create us humane beings only god could do that.

2007-01-08 13:01:22 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

No proof. Religion is founded upon stories, and absurd stories at that. It is a way for people to explain what they don't understand or what has not yet been explained by science. It is, as Marx put it, "the opium of the people". It is a delusion, and a mass delusion at that. And it's dangerous.

2007-01-08 12:23:51 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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