if you are against abortion, what about this situation....?

Question

If a baby has a fully functioning brain, breathes, cries, sleeps, etc. it's alive right? This baby is more alive than a fetus right?

Well, these twins are attached at the head, but one tiwn is only a head. Both are described in the first sentence, but one baby has no body or organs...
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Is it murder to seperate this head? It will die, but both will die if kept together. Is this worse than abortion?

a lot of responses, and not a lot of answers...it's alive because it's a parasite to the other twin

I KNOW THIS IS NOT ABORTION.....I was asking the people who think that abortion is murder to give their opinion about thi situation

if you don't believe me....type in "born with two heads, manar" in your search engine

Answer 1

You obviously know nothing about making wise and rational decisions. Please, never become a Doctor.

I am sorry, but we as a human race have been using killing for a matter of convenience for too long. If we are to join the ranks of HEBS (Highly Evolved Beings) we will try harder and I think if we use the gray matter just a bit more, we will always find a way to solve challenges that does not include destruction.

Answer 2

Parents are making decisions like that every day in this world. Remember the couple who had conjoined twin daughters who shared many of the same organs. One was very sick and was surely going to die. The other had a better chance of living but would also die if they stayed attached. They opted to separate and hope for the best. At the very least they would have one daughter to raise. They lost both. Other couples have opted to separate and everything went fine. It's definitely a personal choice and at the point of this picture abortion is not an option. If the mother had had access to an ultrasound and knew her babies would be born this way who are we to judge the decision she made. I would have opted to save the life of both even if only for a moment.
Abortion should only be considered in extreme cases such as rape, incest and danger to the health of the mother. Not because you weren't dealt the perfect hand.

I find it extremely offensive that this child was referrred to as a parasite. The article I read stated that "The parasitic head is very much alive and displays reflexive behaviour." I understand the logistics of the whole situation. The little girl had no organs other than the brain and no arms or legs. It's unfortunate and I know she would have never survived but I stand firm in the decision that I would have made and ended up where the mother is now. Without either.

Answer 3

I saw the documentary on this case. It is truly sad. However, the parasitic baby would never have had a life, had no internal organs, arms or legs. What an awful dilemma for the family.
This case is different from an abortion. The baby(ies) were born and one had to be removed and sacrificed so that the other could have a chance at a normal life.
Abortions may take the life of healthy babies before birth. That is what I object to.

Answer 4

If a "baby" has no organs how can It breath? Is it not an actuality a parasitic growth upon the body of the other? Would It not endanger the life of the other? Should death be initiated in order to save a viable life form? Sorry, but I have some small experience at the old "live and let die" roulette game. Your heart is in the right place, and let's just leave it at that, shall We?

Answer 5

The baby is more alive than the fetus? no. Just smaller and less developed. If what you asserted is true then a person in a coma after a car accident is less "alive" than those who visit him/her in the hospital...no matter if he/she gains consciousness later or not. Is this coma patient any less worthy of life because he/she needs help to breathe or has less mental capacity than his/her visitors? No.

I saw the story about the conjoined twins your speaking of. It was murder, but I could totally understand why they did as they did. I didn't understand the parents dismissive attitude for the sick and deformed baby. They didn't even name her and didn't seem to allow themselves to get attached to her. She did have one important organ, a brain. She had her own self will which made her a human being deserving of life. Unfortunately if they weren't separated, after the deformed twin died, the dead baby's body would poison the other and they would both die. It was save one or they both die. I would never want to be put in that situation but it was a necessary evil to keep even one of the twins alive. Sad situation.

Answer 6

Looking at the picture, the smaller twin apparently could not survive as its body and organs aren't even developed or even there. So I'd have to agree that the smaller twin is parasitic in that its using the organs of the larger developed twin to survive. In this case, the sparation of the twins is the only chance at life for the developed twin. And thats the point - that the parasite must be removed for the developed twin to have a chance at life.

Abortion is different, in that the child simply isn't wanted for whatever reasons. And so, purely because it isn't wanted, its killed. Not to save a life, or give a chance for life, but just because its inconvenient.

It is a difficult call, but if one is to survive, then the weaker underdeveloped twin has to go...again, so that the developed twin has a chance at living.

Answer 7

I do not know much about this type of thing. But I do know that often the reasons for separating the two are for health reasons. Complications will be higher risk if the head remains attached.......
I have never seen this type of thing before and I do not know the entire story. Like if the two heads have separate feelings and personalities.......Wow......................what an amazing thing.
Abortion is when the fetus inside a woman is destroyed before it develops any further.This is not an abortion situation. It is more a human rights situation. Some may perceive it as murder.............Tough call. Who ever this beautiful woman is with her child/ren has a tough decision to make and I pray for the Good Lord to protect her and guide to whatever her decision may be..............I pray that God will guide her to do what is right.........
It is difficult to discuss further without more specific information about how this body/ies function and if in fact they are separate or if the extra head is merely a part of the body that exists but id=s not functioning.................WoW....................Definitly makes you grateful for life in general.............

Answer 8

This is a situation in which there is no alternative but to seperate the two, or let them both die. In the case of a normal pregnancy, there is always an alternative. Stop trying to rationalize murder. I cannot believe how selfish some people really are, how bout just being sexually responsible?

Answer 9

Educate yourself first...there is proof babies feel pain, "breathe" amniotic fluid and sleep in the womb. Either the baby is alive or its not. Can you be sort of pregnant? Quite obviously you've never had a child and are still quite immature in your thoughts.

As for the twins, no it's not worse than abortion, there is nothing worse. The doctors would be removing an appendage which in this case is a head. To not do so would kill this baby.

Answer 10

I don't think they have a choice in this case,why let both die.I also don't agree w/abortion being used as a form of birth control,but situations where an 11 year old girl gets raped/molested by her father,or somethinglike that,she should have a choice.It should be private,its really not any one elses busines.With everyone running to other countries to addopt,its not like people are fighting to adopt or care for all the children right here in their own country. NO,i don't think this is worse than abortion,it,s got nothing to do w/abortin!

Answer 11

It is a heartbreaking situation to be sure, but to equivocate it with anything related to abortion is apples and oranges.

Abortion is a choice, made possible by other choices. If a woman does not desire to become pregnant, abstinence works every time.

No one made a conscious decision for the twins in your example to be born they way they are.

The death of one here is necessary to ensure the survival of the other, to decide otherwise would comdemn both.

In the case of an abortion, except to save the life of the mother, there is no such necessity.