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It's like people who look for the Loch Ness monster. They are so invested in this myth that they don't want to live in a universe without the Loch Ness monster. They have faith in the Loch Ness monster, and as for religion, it tells the ultimate fantasy of a savior, of the supernatural. Too make a long story short, life can be unbearably mediocre and boring without devotion, and religion is single-handedly the most available form of devotion.

2007-01-06 22:03:58 · 17 answers · asked by The Killer is Me 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

17 answers

Fantasy is right-! IMO

It is easy to prove to yourself that God is imaginary.

The evidence is all around you.

Here are 50 simple proofs.

http://godisimaginary.com/


How do we know that Christians are delusional?

http://godisimaginary.com/video7.htm


You can prove to Yourself, that Jesus is completely imaginary, in less than five minutes.

http://godisimaginary.com/video4.htm


Proving that prayer is superstition

http://godisimaginary.com/video.htm


The best optical illusion in the world-!

http://godisimaginary.com/video8.htm


http://godisimaginary.com/


Many more medical articles about the efficacy of prayer.

Prayer-Related Articles by Gary P. Posner, M.D.

http://members.aol.com/garypos/prayer.html


A short list of Quotes from well known Atheists, Agnostics, and Religious Skeptics.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZuknsnphEU


Sheeple Files about "religion".

http://www.sheeplefiles.com/atheistreligionfile.htm

Proof #2 - Statistically analyze prayer

The fact is, God never answers any prayers.

The entire idea that "God answers prayers" is an illusion created by human imagination.


Watch the video

http://godisimaginary.com/video.htm

How do we know that "answered prayers" are illusions?

We simply perform scientific experiments.

We ask a group of believers to pray for something and then we watch what happens.

What we find, whenever we test the efficacy of prayer scientifically, is that prayer has zero effect:

It does not matter who prays.

It does not matter if we pray to God, Allah, Vishnu, Zeus, Ra or any other human god.

It does not matter what we pray about.

If we perform scientific, double-blind tests on prayer, and if the prayers involve something concrete and measurable (for example, healing people with cancer), we know that there is zero effect from prayer.

Every single "answered prayer" is nothing more than a coincidence.

Both scientific experiments and your everyday observations of the world show this to be the case every single time.


For example, this article says:

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/health_science/articles/2005/07/25/a_prayer_for_health/

One of the most scientifically rigorous studies yet, published earlier this month, found that the prayers of a distant congregation did not reduce the major complications or death rate in patients hospitalized for heart treatments.

And:

A review of 17 past studies of ''distant healing," published in 2003 by a British researcher, found no significant effect for prayer or other healing methods.
This article from March, 2006 discusses the fact that the same conclusion was reached in another study:

http://www.livescience.com/othernews/ap_060330_prayer.html

In the largest study of its kind, researchers found that having people pray for heart bypass surgery patients had no effect on their recovery.

In fact, patients who knew they were being prayed for had a slightly higher rate of complications.

In this article

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/11/opinion/11lawrence.html?ex=1302408000&en=643ff6eac0f51086&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

we find an amazing quote where theologians and religious leaders declare that prayer has no actual effect:

http://godisimaginary.com/i32.htm

Religious leaders will breathe a sigh of relief at the news that so-called intercessory prayer is medically ineffective.

In a large and much touted scientific study, one group of patients was told that strangers would pray for them, a second group was told strangers might or might not pray for them, and a third group was not prayed for at all.

The $2.4 million study found that the strangers' prayers did not help patients' recovery.

This is a remarkable example of "positive spin" -- religious leaders are "breathing a sigh of relief" because prayer has been shown to be meaningless.

The fact that prayer is a total waste of time does not matter to them.

It does not matter that all of Jesus' promises about prayer in the Bible have been proven completely false.

http://godisimaginary.com/i1.htm

A peer-reviewed scientific study published in 2001 did indicate that prayer works.

http://www.csicop.org/si/2004-09/miracle-study.html

According to this article:

"On October 2, 2001, the New York Times reported that researchers at prestigious Columbia University Medical Center in New York had discovered something quite extraordinary. Using virtually foolproof scientific methods the researchers had demonstrated that infertile women who were prayed for by Christian prayer groups became pregnant twice as often as those who did not have people praying for them.

The study was published in the Journal of Reproductive Medicine.

Even the researchers were shocked.

The study's results could only be described as miraculous"

This study was later proven to be completely fraudulent.

However, everyone who cut out the original article in the NYTimes and posted it on their refrigerators still has that article as "proof" that prayer works.


This article entitled A prayer before dying uncovers another case where a "scientific study" of prayer is unmasked as fraudulent.

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/10.12/prayer.html

It's not just prayer that is ineffective.

Not even a hopeful attitude helps.


According to this article:


http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2004-02-09-cancer_x.htm


A positive attitude does not improve the chances of surviving cancer and doctors who encourage patients to keep up hope may be burdening them, according to the results of research released Monday.


The dictionary defines the word "superstition" in this way:

An irrational belief that an object, action, or circumstance not logically related to a course of events influences its outcome.

[ref]

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=superstition


The belief in prayer is a superstition.

It has been proven scientifically over and over again. When a prayer appears to be answered, it is a coincidence. Quite simply, prayer has absolutely no effect on the outcome of any event.

The "power of prayer" is actually "the power of coincidence."


Prayer does not work because God is completely imaginary.

2007-01-06 22:10:51 · answer #1 · answered by Realistic Viewpoint 3 · 0 1

What's so wrong in believing the teaching's of Jesus? He was a really nice guy. Why do devoted people upset you so much?
Just because a person has seen the "light" doesn't mean they'll never have to replace the bulb. You should feel bad for people stuck in the confines of religion, not pushing them deeper in.

2007-01-06 22:10:30 · answer #2 · answered by MotherMayI? 4 · 0 0

isnt it good that we have a very easy form of devotion-religion? i dont see why you should be angry with the good odl religion. u say that jesus story is a fantasy. friend ,millions of people around the world have immense faith in that "fantasy"- and that fantasy has worked miracles for them. havent you heard abt cases where pure devotion has cured the ill? what can that be called? a supernatural action? no, you call it a miracle, something that happens by the grace of god. that is the difference bw fantasy and truth

2007-01-14 21:46:39 · answer #3 · answered by lilac4u 3 · 0 0

I don't understand, you believe in Loch Ness Monster??

2007-01-06 22:13:17 · answer #4 · answered by Johnny23 2 · 0 0

First of all Jesus has been proven to have exsisted. Yes, that's right he is a historical fact not therory. If you hear otherwise then you are looking at a unreliable source.

However the Supernatual aspects of Jesus hasn't been. (In other words his miracles, "son of God" ect.) For all they know is that he lived. He could have been a whack job for all they know, but again he lived.

Now as for the Lock Ness; they haven't figured that one out yet to my knowledge. It's possible; however very improbable. But then again we are finding new creatures and some we thought were exstict just about every day so who knows.

As for your last point you are partially right. However it is in reverse. Seeing salvation, "Heavan", ect. ect. makes life boring. People go why really live my life today when tomarrow I'll be in paradise or something like that.

Although I am very religious the main aspect I try to tell people is to live your lives to the fullest. God or such did not make you so that you could worship him/her. I mean if you have kids did you have them to worship you?

2007-01-06 22:24:13 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

Christianity is so ridiculously proven wrong every single day,even compared to other religions,that I believe in it.Anything so deliriously out of touch with observable reality must be true.
But that's just because I view this world as relentlessly deceptive and aggressively hostile to almost anything that isn't strong and malignant.

2007-01-06 22:17:20 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Yes I do believe in God.
Why are atheist always putting questions on here trying to prove God doesn't exist,because your not going to change Christians.
Are you afraid were right,or are you just afraid to go to Hell by yourself.
As for the Loch Ness monster some people may believe its true.I don't,But believing and having faith is two different things.
Some people believe in God but they don't have faith.As for me I'll Keep both My belief and faith.

2007-01-06 22:40:34 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

Fascinated? Am not fascinated, but amazingly petrified by his teaching.

The Book of John clearly and explicitly featured this man of sorrow whom some think a myth.

JOHN Chapter-1 and verses.

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.

You see Man is full of EMOTION and COMMOTION but never had any DEVOTION to this man called Jesus of Nazareth.

Man forgot that all authority in heaven and on earth was given to this man called Jesus (Yeshua)

2007-01-06 23:28:01 · answer #8 · answered by NIGHT_WATCH 4 · 0 0

Christ had the right idea of how to treat our fellow man. Was he god ? Personally I don't believe so . Then that MY belief . What someone else believes is just that a BELIEF . Who knows I may be wrong ,but a belief is as individual and personal as each person is . Its not right or wrong it just is . Belief in god can not be proven or disproven. Besides mysteries in life keep it interesting

2007-01-06 22:24:08 · answer #9 · answered by Peace of Mind 4 · 1 0

I am sorry, but this is perhaps the lamest analogy I have yet heard. It makes the Flying Spaghetti Monster seem like a work of apologetic genius.

2007-01-06 22:10:41 · answer #10 · answered by evolver 6 · 4 0

Religion is a $3 billion dollar a year business that sells hope to people who need it. Those who don't have that need are not interested.

2007-01-06 22:10:25 · answer #11 · answered by liberty11235 6 · 2 0

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