How can you be an Athiest-Agnostic???

Question

i see some Agnostic people on here say "I am Athiest Agnostic" but i thought that All Agnostic people are basically Athiest???

and i KNOW that no Athiest is Agnostic, because Athiesm is the rejection of All faith.

Agnosticism is the rejection of faith, but you still basically beleive there might be a God.

So how can an Athiest Be an Agnostic???

And why would an Agnostic say they are Athiest???

My fellow agnostic: I beleive there is a God (about as much as you) but here lately i have been doubting its existence.

Girl Wonder: why would an Agnostic Have to SAY they are Athiest when we all Know that Agnostic are Basically Athiest???

Answer 1

They can't. I suggest they are trying to cover their bases and don't know the difference between the two.

Answer 2

A person can be an Atheist at this point in time but be open to new evidence as it comes in. They are an Atheist because right now they believe there is no God. They are also an agnostic because they concede we don't have all the knowledge required to fully disqualify the existence of God. It is possible and it makes sense. I don't really see how an one could not be actually - that's probably where the strong, weak atheist thing comes in.

Answer 3

You're completely right on the part about "And why would an Agnostic say they are Athiest?"

I'm Agnostic, but I belive in God about 80%. The other 20% I believe that there's a possibility he might not exist.

I hope that answers your question, but i'm absolutely sure it didn't.

Answer 4

I don't think you can be unless they are saying that they are torn. I am an atheist. I believe that there is no god. An agnostic says there is insufficient evidence to tell.

We basically have the same outlook on the lack of evidence, but it is mostly a philosophical difference in what that means. I don't think that it is reasonable to believe in anything without evidence so I conclude there isn't a god. An agnostic would say that it means you can't tell.

Answer 5

They can be answers to different questions. If you ask me if I *KNOW* god exists (or not), then, no, I have no definitive evidence either way. Thus, I am agnostic.

...BUT...

If you ask what I believe is real, I will say that the earth below my feet. That is a CHOICE. So long as I believe that this existence is "real" then belief in some other or "higher" reality negates my reality. Not real useful. So, I choose to believe in no-god (a-theism) -- no other reality.

But, epistemologically I am still agnostic.

Answer 6

I think on a scale of belief, agnosticism isn't that far from atheism. I respect agnostics, but to me it's sort of like the 7-year-old who doesn't really believe in Santa Claus but is unwilling to say so just in case he is really the source of all those gifts.

Or, as Studs Terkel once said "an agnostic is a gutless atheist"

Answer 7

Peace!
I agree with you totally.
It is the same dog with a different collar. I was once an agnostic myself. I went through the same process many atheists and so called agnostics are going through right now. Give them time. It is better not to be antagonistic towards them.

Answer 8

Agnostics are very different from athiests.

Athiests believe that there is no god.

Agnostics are unsure of the true nature of god (or if a god even exists). "Strong Agnostics" go even further and believe that the true nature of whatever created us is unknowable.

Answer 9

Actually, the "rejection of all faith" is called antitheism or nontheism...I think there's a few other terms for it, but atheism is not one of them.

Agnosticism is the belief that no one can prove or disprove the existence of [G]od(s).

An atheist is someone who does not commit to belief in [G]od(s).

Someone can be an agnostic atheist by believing that there is/are no [G]od(s), but doesn't think there's any way to prove it (or disprove it).

I am an agnostic polytheist. I believe in many gods, but I don't think there's any way to prove it one way or another.

Answer 10

I don't understand your question.

You say "i thought that All Agnostic people are basically Athiest" then go on to ask "why would an Agnostic say they are Athiest?"

What are you trying to ask? I don't think even you know.

ETA: But Agnostics are very different from Atheists.

Answer 11

Qualifying agnosticism

Critics of the term "agnostic" claim that there is nothing distinctive in being agnostic because even many theists do not claim to know with certainty that a god exists -- only that they believe it to be true. Under this asserted distinction between the words "belief" and "knowledge," agnosticism has recently started suffering from terminological ambiguity. While critics maintain the distinction is not contrived; others reject the distinction as trifling. By contrast, compare:

* "I believe God(s) exist(s)" means that "I know God(s) exist(s)".
* "I believe God(s) exist(s)" can still mean "I don't know if God(s) exist(s)".

If this distinction is accepted, the term agnostic becomes orthogonal to theism without further qualifiers, and many qualifiers become contradictory unless the distinction is accepted. If this distinction is ultimately accepted by the larger public, the group formerly described by the term will again find themselves without a label, because the qualifiers provided would be inappropriate for their philosophy.

Recently suggested variations include:

* Strong agnosticism (also called hard agnosticism, closed agnosticism, strict agnosticism, absolute agnosticism)—the view that the question of the existence or nonexistence of god(s) are unknowable by nature or that human beings are ill-equipped to judge the evidence.
* Weak agnosticism (also called soft agnosticism, open agnosticism, empirical agnosticism, temporal agnosticism)—the view that the existence or nonexistence of God(s) is currently unknown but is not necessarily unknowable, therefore one will withhold judgment until/if more evidence is available.
* Apathetic agnosticism—the view that there is no proof of either the existence or nonexistence of God(s), but since any God(s) that may exist appear unconcerned for the universe or the welfare of its inhabitants, the question is largely academic anyway.
* Non-practicing agnosticism—the view that there is no proof of either existence or nonexistence of God(s), and that it's meaningless to care.
* Ignosticism—the view that the concept of God(s) as a being is meaningless because it has no verifiable consequences, therefore it cannot be usefully discussed as having existence or nonexistence. (See scientific method)
* Model agnosticism—the view that philosophical and metaphysical questions are not ultimately verifiable but that a model of malleable assumption should be built upon rational thought. This branch of agnosticism does not focus on a deity's existence.
* Agnostic theism (also called religious agnosticism)—the view of those who do not claim to know existence of God(s), but still believe in such an existence. (See Knowledge vs. Beliefs)
* Agnostic spiritualism—the view that there may or may not be a God(s), while maintaining a general personal belief in a spiritual aspect of reality, particularly without distinct religious basis, or adherence to any established doctrine or dogma.
* Relative Agnosticism—This is similar to Agnostic spiritualism, but with the added view that if it was empirically proven that God(s) do or do not exist, it would not affect the beliefs of the Relative Agnostic.
* Agnostic atheism—the view of those who do not know of the existence or nonexistence of god(s), and do not believe in god(s).[2]