from the British Times:
"Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side'
By Ruth Gledhill, Religion Correspondent
RELIGIOUS belief can cause damage to a society, contributing towards high murder rates, abortion, sexual promiscuity and suicide, according to research published today.
According to the study, belief in and worship of God are not only unnecessary for a healthy society but may actually contribute to social problems.
The study counters the view of believers that religion is necessary to provide the moral and ethical foundations of a healthy society.
It compares the social peformance of relatively secular countries, such as Britain, with the US, where the majority believes in a creator rather than the theory of evolution. Many conservative evangelicals in the US consider Darwinism to be a social evil, believing that it inspires atheism and amorality.
Many liberal Christians and believers of other faiths hold that religious belief is socially beneficial, believing that it helps to lower rates of violent crime, murder, suicide, sexual promiscuity and abortion. The benefits of religious belief to a society have been described as its “spiritual capital”. But the study claims that the devotion of many in the US may actually contribute to its ills.
The paper, published in the Journal of Religion and Society, a US academic journal, reports: “Many Americans agree that their churchgoing nation is an exceptional, God-blessed, shining city on the hill that stands as an impressive example for an increasingly sceptical world.
“In general, higher rates of belief in and worship of a creator correlate with higher rates of homicide, juvenile and early adult mortality, STD infection rates, teen pregnancy and abortion in the prosperous democracies.
“The United States is almost always the most dysfunctional of the developing democracies, sometimes spectacularly so.”
Gregory Paul, the author of the study and a social scientist, used data from the International Social Survey Programme, Gallup and other research bodies to reach his conclusions.
He compared social indicators such as murder rates, abortion, suicide and teenage pregnancy.
The study concluded that the US was the world’s only prosperous democracy where murder rates were still high, and that the least devout nations were the least dysfunctional. Mr Paul said that rates of gonorrhoea in adolescents in the US were up to 300 times higher than in less devout democratic countries. The US also suffered from “ uniquely high” adolescent and adult syphilis infection rates, and adolescent abortion rates, the study suggested.
Mr Paul said: “The study shows that England, despite the social ills it has, is actually performing a good deal better than the USA in most indicators, even though it is now a much less religious nation than America.”
He said that the disparity was even greater when the US was compared with other countries, including France, Japan and the Scandinavian countries. These nations had been the most successful in reducing murder rates, early mortality, sexually transmitted diseases and abortion, he added.
Mr Paul delayed releasing the study until now because of Hurricane Katrina. He said that the evidence accumulated by a number of different studies suggested that religion might actually contribute to social ills. “I suspect that Europeans are increasingly repelled by the poor societal performance of the Christian states,” he added.
He said that most Western nations would become more religious only if the theory of evolution could be overturned and the existence of God scientifically proven. Likewise, the theory of evolution would not enjoy majority support in the US unless there was a marked decline in religious belief, Mr Paul said.
“The non-religious, proevolution democracies contradict the dictum that a society cannot enjoy good conditions unless most citizens ardently believe in a moral creator.
“The widely held fear that a Godless citizenry must experience societal disaster is therefore refuted.” "
2007-01-06 09:06:19
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answered by ? 6
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Well, thank you Jesus! I guess the second coming really is upon us. I'll have to go back to Jerusalem and miss the Rapture now. Damn it. Your quote really proves your statement. You are brilliant, Thomas. It's about time someone said it. Run, you atheist, agnostic, Satanists! Get your head out of rationale and have faith already! Or else! Didn't you read what Luke prophesied? "...for I am tormented in this flame". Isn't that enough for you people? There are 600 ways to interpret this quote, but since I know God I know that it means you're all a bunch of murdering atheists! I HAVE FAITH and I WILL BE SAVED! If not, I'll come and join you guys for a beer.
2007-01-06 14:56:35
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answered by Me, Thrice-Baked 5
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Do you want to know there is a Hogwards school for witches and wizards? Harry Potter 1: 12: 23, 41-45 etc
If that doesn't prove my argument what makes you think you've proven yours?
Oh and there are no statistics that atheists/satanists kill more - the evidence is that christians kill more - the most religious states in america have the highest rates of violent crime. Look it up.
2007-01-06 09:44:49
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answered by TRITHEMIUS 3
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hey asshole, I don't curse out your beliefs, don't curse out mine. I bet you don't even know what the hell a satanist is (a little hint for you, they don't worship satan). I don't give a damn if america is a christian nation, the catholics can all kiss my *** for all I care, I live here, I'm an atheist, and as long as you don't try to convert me we can all get along, got it!
I am very sorry for the profanity, I don't usually talk like that, but some religious people just make me so angry.
2007-01-06 09:08:26
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answered by Bond 2
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i am not an athiest or satanist or whatever, but haven't you posted this question enough times? you're just gonna piss a lot of people off that don't call themselves christians. plus, you need to read your bible a little more and "judge not, lest ye be judged". Stop being so close-minded and keep your opinions to yourself.
2007-01-06 09:05:58
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answered by rhiamon 3
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Oh, goody. I get to hear about the scare tactics again. Didn't you know most people grew out of that when they stopped believing in Santa Claus and the boogeyman?
2007-01-06 09:06:01
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answered by Laura 5
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How many more people have to tell you before it finally gets into your pea sized brain that this isn't a "Christian Nation"?
I've heard this whole song and dance so many times, and you think I'm just going to buy it cause you mentioned a scripture and told me I'm going to hell?
2007-01-06 09:07:40
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answered by Drew 5
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Actually, atheists are very under represented in prison populations. Less than 1% of prison population says they are atheist while almost 10% of the general population does. Atheists are 10X less likely than average to go to prison.
2007-01-06 09:12:02
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answered by Alex 6
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Maybe, some want to know the truth.
How about YOU?
Do YOU want to know the truth?
Study to show thyself approved.
HELL IN KJV
One Hebrew word “sheol” is rendered hell. Definition; hades or the world of the dead (as if a subterranian retreat), grave, hell, pit. Three Greek words are rendered hell; geenna, hades, and tartaroo. Definition of geenna; a valley of Jerusalem, used (figuratively) as a name for the place (or state) of everlasting punishment: - hell. Definition of hades; properly unseen, that is, “Hades” or the place (state) of departed souls: - grave, hell. Definition of tartaroo; (the deepest abyss of Hades); to incarcerate in eternal torment: - cast down to hell. Tartaroo is used only one place II Pet.2:4.
Christ teaching the Pharisees in Luke 16:19-31 shows us a separation from God is truly what hell is. The “water” is symbolic for God’s Spirit and love. The word “tormented” means distressed in the Greek, not torture. The “fire” is symbolic for the shame and desire not to be separated from God.
So all who die the first death of the flesh return to God Ecc.12:6-7, but on which side of the gulf do they end up?
Hell is not eternal but is done away with in Rev.20:14-15, called both the second death and lake of fire. This second death is non-existence, for death and hell and those not written in the book of life. This second death or lake of fire is like fat drippings that fall into the fire. Just a poof of smoke into non-existence.
Psa.37:20 But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.
In my mind what’s worse yet is no memory of you, no tears will be shed for you like you never existed.
Rev.21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
So hell is a separation from God and is not eternal torture or burning. Eventually hell will be done away with or passed away and also some souls. Like fat drippings in the fire, a poof of smoke into non-existence, the second death.
2007-01-06 09:04:44
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answered by Anonymous
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You believe in punishment for punishment's sake without redemption (hell). What a sick, sadistic and monstrous horror you see your "God" to be.
And this is not a Christian nation. This is a nation of both freedom of, and freedom from, religion.
2007-01-06 09:05:49
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answered by Sweetchild Danielle 7
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