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And please don't start with the ressurection garbage since absolutely no historical evidence exists to support it,it's a non starter. Lets go with the facts,thousands of people were crucified by the Romans,and in fact they aren't the only culture to use a similar mode of execution. In fact when Spartacus and his followers were crucified some one hundred years before Christ there were thousands of men hung up on both sides of the appian way for miles and miles,where their bodies were left to rot and fall apart on the crosses which were not pulled down until the body was completely gone. That seems a much more important event than one religious zealot and a thief or two,so what incredible lack of perspective leads this one event to cause one man to be deified and have his name used to oppress and commit the most heinous atrocities for the next 2000 years?

2007-01-06 03:08:07 · 21 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Christians see this as how God came to Earth so he could wash away your sins. Then you can go off to Heaven and whatnot.

This was a repeated act.

Attis, a Roman hero, if not God, was killed by crucifixion.
Bacchus and Osiris also were killed so the Gods would spare humanity.
Mithras, a Persian God, did many things Jesus did and said many of the things Jesus said.

Problem is, they all were around centuries, if not millenia, before Christ. They were the original ones born on December 25.

However, since many Christians think the Pagan religions are demonic, they don't take the time to learn about them.

They did more than just kill people in the name of their God. They would torture people in the most disgusting and horrific ways. Kinda like how "Saw" or "Hostel" is supposed to be (never saw them myself- too sqeamish). The whole point behind this was so they would find the love of their God.

"I'm going to jam these screws under your fingers while we beat you with red-hot spikes. God loves you!"

:-\

No problem with Christians otherwise. Just wish they'd "live and let live" instead of trying to convert us all.

2007-01-06 03:20:28 · answer #1 · answered by Wisdom Lies in the Heart 3 · 0 2

You can dispute the resurrection all you want but the fact is that there were witnesses to that fact. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong on the exact number but I believe upwards of 500 people saw Jesus after he rose from the dead. How many people do you need to see it for there to be enough proof for you???

If this world survives a few hundred more years, there obviously will be no more World War I and World War II vets left - and no more witnesses to those wars alive anymore either. So, do you think that people will say that World War I and World War II never happened because there is nobody alive to verify the proof? Of course not. 'Course the Iranian president is trying this tact with the Holocaust but he's an idiot.

The reality is that when there are witnesses to an event and they record what they have saw ... no matter how far back the event dates... that is enough proof that the event actually occurred.

Sounds like you're desperately looking for ways to deny the resurrection ever happened inspite of all the proof. The proof is all around you. Just change your attitude and read a few books and you'll see.

For an example, a first century Jewish historian (Josephus) said this about Jesus in his writings:

'About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he was one who performed surprising deeds and was a teacher of such people as accept the truth gladly. He won over many Jews and many of the Greeks. He was the Messiah. And when, upon the accusation of the principal men among us, Pilate had condemned him to a cross, those who had first come to love him did not cease. He appeared to them spending a third day restored to life, for the prophets of God had foretold these things and a thousand other marvels about him. And the tribe of the Christians, so called after him, has still to this day not disappeared.'

Now, of course a statement like this is going to be scrutinized over the centuries and some are going to believe it and some are going to find ways to not believe it.

Believe it or don't believe it. I just want you to know that historians and reporters from that era mentioned Jesus in their writings as well - Jesus isn't just some 'Biblical concept' that people have been brainwashed to believe in for over 2,000 years.

Now, if Jesus really lived on this earth and he is really who he said he was (the son of God) then I have no problem at all believing that he came to save humanity from their sins and rose from the dead - especially when there were witnesses to that fact. With God nothing is impossible.

2007-01-06 03:33:53 · answer #2 · answered by ? 5 · 2 1

I am not religious, but you are missing the point. It's not how they died, its who and why. John Doe may have been crucifed, but Jesus (for those that believe) was. That carries some weight since he is the son of god and died for out sins. He sacrificed himself when he didn't have to. But this is religious agruemnt, let me try another example.

Every day, thousands of people are shot and killed. However, when Martin Luther King was shot, that was memorable. Not because he was shot, but because of his life and the amzing things he did. Yeah, you can easily argue there is still racism and hate crimes in America, nevermind the world. But Martin did some couragous things to change a lot of that.

If you don't believe in god, then you don't. And if you do, then you do. I don't see why the atheists and the religious peeps have to battle every day on Yahoo answers. Neither of you listen to each other.

2007-01-06 03:19:59 · answer #3 · answered by I like Chinese food 4 · 2 0

I think you may have the clue to your answer within your question. If the crucifixion of Jesus of Nazareth was just one out of thousands, then why in the world is it still even talked about? One could look at the behavior of the disciples -- one day cowering in a house, waiting for arrest and death. A few days later they were out in public telling everyone what had happened. You might want to check out the writings of Josh McDowell (Evidence that Demands an Answer) and Lee Strobel (The Case For Christ)

2007-01-06 03:15:08 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

I certainly agree with the man who is probably below me. Why is this one man, who claimed to be the Son of God, still talked about even right now. Also as the gentlemen had said before, these apostles were a fearsome cowardly bunch who locked themselves up in there houses for three days so that the Pharisees wouldn't catch them and crucify them too! On top of that, they were totally clueless on the things Jesus talked about throughout his ministry and parables. It's sometimes kind of funny to hear the apostles responses. But after Jesus died and rose from the dead, these apostles changed dramatically. These men and the people who believe Jesus' testimony, suffered immensely. All of the apostles but one, were martryed and died cruel and horrible deaths. (The one left died of old age) Stabbed in the back while praying, having their skin flayed off, crucified upside down causing the guts came out of the mouth, beaten, whipped, stoned almost to death, shamed, hungry, on and on and on. These cowardly group of men suddenly changed dramaticlly after what they had claimed was the Resurrection of their Lord, Jesus Christ (and also at Pentecost). This is all leading up to my answer, so please hang in there. "Without the belief in the resurrection the Christian faith could not have come into being. The disciples would have remained crushed and defeated men. Even had they continued to remember Jesus as their beloved teacher, his crucifixion would have forever silenced any hopes of his being the Messiah. The cross would have remained the sad and shameful end of his career. The origin of Christianity therefore hinges on the belief of the early disciples that God had raised Jesus from the dead."-William Lane Craig. Jesus himself even predicted his own death, and even of his Resurrection (Matthew 12:38-40; 16:21; 17:9 and many other places). I am not trying to convince you at all if the Resurrection is true or not, but I said all that to say this. Jesus must be the Son of God, not a great and moral teacher, because after He was Resurrected, the apostles were changed, fearless, and zealous men for their God. Jesus's death and Resurrection go hand in hand. Had Jesus died and not risen from the dead, the apostles would have stayed cowardly and defeated men, knowing that Jesus was not who he claimed to be. You see that's what makes Jesus' death so prominent, is because of His Resurrection. Had he not risen from the dead, his death would have meant absolutely nothing.

2007-01-06 04:02:38 · answer #5 · answered by Joe 1 · 1 1

Whether Christ was the son of god or not is not something that I believe can ever be proven scientifically. The crucifixtion of Christ is important because Christians believe (or purport to believe) that Christ was god's son. And because of that belief, the supposed suffering of their savior is important. For all we know Christ could have been just a lunatic, or he could have been a man who tried teaching people that they should be nice to one another. As far as the atrocities commited in Christ's name, yes, they are numerous and heinous, but it is important to realize that virtually every religion has a bloody history, filled with oppression and hypocrisy. Belief is a dangerous thing that can lead people to do horrible things.

2007-01-06 03:23:35 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

WIthout the Crucifixion, the Resurrection wont make sense, and without Resurrection, the whole Christ (peace be upon him) being the son of God coming to save mankind would mean nothing.

God knows best

Peace and Love

2007-01-06 03:20:33 · answer #7 · answered by mil's 4 · 2 1

The fact that he is a perfect, sinless God who decided to become a man and voluntarily gave up His life in the most humiliating way of death, to carry in the cross the sins of all men and give them eternal salvation acquired by the shedding of his blood.

2007-01-06 03:13:43 · answer #8 · answered by Lorena 2 · 2 1

The importance with the Curcifixion is that when Christ died, that paid for our sins. Jesus, who lived a perfect life, free from sin, died, and inhereited everyone's sin who believes in him. Because the wage for sin is death, someone has to die for sin to be repaid, to be judged and punished. Jesus took that punishment on the cross 1)by the abuse 2) by the death and 3) from the seperation of God.

When Jesus died, being perfect, imagine God saying, because you died and were sinless, those that believe in you, I will count your death for their sins also. It's the idea of imputed justification. Being in "right-standing" before God, our Judge. So the Crucifixion allows for us to be forgiven.

The resurrection allows for us to inherit eternal life with our glorified selves.

I know you don't believe this, but you asked, so hopefully I pray that you think about this a little bit and maybe, just admit that you arent' perfect, that you do bad things and that without Christ dying on the cross, you have to be held accountable and responsible for those things. Just think about it.

2007-01-06 03:13:35 · answer #9 · answered by Curtis 2 · 2 1

Death by crucifixion was one of the most painful experiences imaginable, and Jesus' suffering on the cross was far more agonizing that anything most of us will ever have to endure.

But Jesus' physical suffering was only a sign of a much deeper kind of suffering He was enduring: the suffering of His spirit. When Jesus died, the face of His heavenly Father was hidden, and He was torn from the presence of God. He who had enjoyed unbroken fellowship with His Father in heaven from all eternity now faced Hell itself. This was His real agony—an agony far deeper than that which any other person has ever endured.

Why did He have to endure so much suffering? The reason is because all our sins were placed on Him, and when He suffered and died He was taking upon Himself the punishment we deserve. You and I only deserve judgment and hell—but He took our judgment and hell upon Himself. The Bible says, "God made him who had no sin to be sin for us" (2 Corinthians 5:21). He took your place!

Why did He do this? He did it because of love! He loves us, and He wants us to spend eternity with Him in heaven. Sin is serious—so serious that it sent Jesus to the cross. But God's love is greater, and because of Jesus' death and resurrection we can be saved. Turn to Christ and accept Him into your life today.

2007-01-06 03:11:12 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

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