Perhaps you feel you know more about the Bible than most Christians because you see their holy text from a different, more subjective view. I study literature of all kinds and also view the Bible in that context. I will say that I also get completely annoyed when Christians don't know enough about what they belief and why they believe it to have an intellectual conversation without the standard cop-outs and close-minded, trite remarks.
2007-01-05 19:30:26
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answer #1
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answered by Lea 2
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I posted this as a question a while back, I think it somewhat applies here.
I would like to ask something of this community. I know this is not easy, but I constantly see questions titled "Why do Christians" or "Why do muslims" or "Isn't anybody fed up _____(religion here)" Before you jump to classify all Christians as ignorant Bible thumpers or all Muslims as extremists, please think about the stupidity of generalities. It makes no since to assume that since someone believes in God or Allah that they all have the exact same beliefs and opinions or that they all act the same way. Many "Christians" on this board have made a nuisance of themselves, but that does not mean that all Christians are conservatives, ignorant, hateful, or anything else.
Micro-evolution, evolution within a species is undeniable and perfectly fine, Christianity's problem with evolution (other than some of the less educated ones programmed ressponse evolution=bad) is the assumptions it makes about species chaning to completely new species. Have you even read about the theory of punctuated equal librium? There is no record and no precendece for such a thing.
Carbon dating? Hardly reliable. Recently hardened lava from the mt. saint helens eruption years ago was tested by a carbon dating specialist and the results said it was thousands of years old. On top of this think about the assumptions you have to make to accept carbon dating.
1. You knew how much carbon 14 was in the object
2. You know the rate of decay and it was constant
3. There has been no contamination of carbon 14 that might affect the original amount or rate of decay
The Bible has proven itself an accurate record over and over again. From the times when archaelogist did not believe Jericho existed until they found a cith called jericho with walls that appeared to have collapsed outwardly to the names of some of the Babylonian kings. To the very fact of Jesus Christ. He historically existed. That is a fact. His miracles and his life, that is questioned by those who don't believe the Bible, but his existence can no longer be questioned.
And what about this big bang theory? If we had started from some huge explosion then why isn't all the matter in the universe an evenly spread out homogenous soup? Why does earth have so much hyrdogen and oxygen and other planets do not. Why are some planets spinning the other direction? Why does Uranus (im pretty sure its uranus, could be wrong here) spin on its side? If we came from some huge explosion then why isnt everything equal and proportionate?
Besides my atrocious spelling due to my attempted speed, am I that dim? If you are so concerned about scientific answers where are your examples? Sadly most Christians are as uneducated about what they believe as you appear to be. Honestly you are listening to the wrong Christians though because most of what I typed of there is from what I have been taught over the years.
2007-01-05 19:25:58
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answered by premise 3
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OK JOB Two questions:
Please explain why in Matt 1:12-16 There are only thirteen generations listed and in Matt 1:17 says there should be fourteen? What happened to the 14th generation?
From Proverbs 25:22 and Roman 12: 20 explain the phrase "you will heap burning coals on his head" means?
So much for the biblical knowledge.
If you want intelligent answer to thoughtful scientific question, the bible is not your source. There are no scientific answers since the bible is revelation not observation. Moreover there are no scientific facts in the bible. Any beginning bible student should know this.
Moreover, there are no revelations in science, it is all man's observation. Any beginning scientist should know this as well.
Frankly, I find your question extremely limited since Christians are not the only group that are dim. So whatever group or groups you are in are dim as well. Any beginning logician would know this.
Answer: If Christians are dim, you are blind. Let me know when you have answered my two questions.
2007-01-05 19:52:26
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answered by J. 7
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Jesus Himself put forth a question of whether there would be anyone with faith when He returns. Luke 18:8 God did not make people as robots or puppets. We have free will. That's the amazing thing about Christianity. It wasn't started by great and mighty people. Jesus choose very everyday people to be the His first follows. Also, the Bible was not meant to be a scientific proof. Personally, I think you are asking too many questions at once without a connected theme.
2007-01-05 19:44:08
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answered by Zippy 2
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This question is dim. Don't stereotype and generalize. I've seen some pretty dim, dumb athiest arguments as well as Christian ones. Perhaps talk to the intellectual Christians if you want to have a good theological discussion about faith.
So, faith is not needed in life? Everything is run on fact? Evolution is fact? Sorry, these things are not true. Gravity is fact, evolution is a widely accepted scientific theory.
The fact is the human brain is logical, but it is also spiritual. Therefore, not everything can be explained by logic and science.
2007-01-05 19:28:50
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answered by Anonymous
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Mainly when the answer is not known---who do you turn to. Science and religion don't interact, When science can't explain it--we throw religion at it. We would rather have a half-baked answer, then none at all. True Christians believe in evolution. God never told us how long it took for us to evolve "self" and thus the true ADAM and EVE. You look at our fables--the stories we tell our children as facts?. Next is that you will believe that God created the heavens and the earth in one day__who's Day?
Time is only relative to what you measure with and your location.
Christianity and other religions are about belief----to greet a better tomorrow, even though your starving to death in a desert or dieing of cancer. It about living 10 years when the Doctors gave you two weeks. It's coming out of the coma after 5 years,walking when they said you never would-----it's the human spirit that fights on after science has given up. When your daughter is born yellow, liver and kidneys are failing ,and the medical staff just looks at you and they don't want to talk to you----who are you going to look for? your science book?--I think not
2007-01-05 19:52:45
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answered by redrepair 5
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To believe has been defined as "to accept as true, genuine, or real." The United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights enshrines every person's "right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion." This right includes the freedom "to change his religion or belief" if he wants to do so.
WHY, though, would anyone want to change his religion or belief? "I have my own beliefs, and I am happy with them," is the commonly expressed view. Many feel that even mistaken beliefs cause little harm to anyone. Someone who believes that the earth is flat, for example, is not likely to hurt himself or anyone else. "We should just agree to differ," some say. Is that always wise? Would a doctor simply agree to differ if one of his colleagues continued to believe he could go straight from handling dead bodies in a morgue to examining sick patients in a hospital ward?
When it comes to religion, mistaken beliefs have historically caused great harm. Think of the horrors that resulted when religious leaders "inspired Christian zealots to pitiless violence" during the so-called Holy Crusades of the Middle Ages. Or think of the modern-day "Christian" gunmen in a recent civil war who, "just like medieval warriors who had saints' names on their sword hilts, taped pictures of the Virgin to their rifle butts." All these zealots believed that they were right. Yet, obviously in these and other religious struggles and fights, something was terribly wrong.
Why is there so much confusion and conflict? The Bible's answer is that Satan the Devil is "misleading the entire inhabited earth." (Revelation 12:9; 2 Corinthians 4:4; 11:3) The apostle Paul warned that many religious people would, sadly, be "doomed to perish" because they would be deceived by Satan, who would "produce miracles and wonders calculated to deceive." Such ones, said Paul, would "shut their minds to the love of truth which could have saved them" and would thus be 'deluded into believing what is a lie.' (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12, The New Testament, by William Barclay) How can you minimize the possibility of believing a lie? Why, in fact, do you believe the way you do?
Perhaps you have been brought up in the beliefs of your family. That may well be a good thing. God wants parents to teach their children. (Deuteronomy 6:4-9; 11:18-21) The young man Timothy, for example, benefited greatly from listening to his mother and grandmother. (2 Timothy 1:5; 3:14, 15) The Scriptures encourage respect for what parents believe.
2007-01-05 19:42:09
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answered by I speak Truth 6
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The theory is that we evolved from a common ancestor with the apes. But it's not a proven fact nor has it been proven that any species has ever evolved out of or into another species.
Faith is all you need to believe in Jesus Christ as savior. Romans 8:24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for? This is talking about eternal salvation but it's also talking about tomorrow, and trusting in God for our provision.
2007-01-05 19:43:44
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answered by hisgloryisgreat 6
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if you do know more about the Bible, then tell me your explanation for the armors found beneath the Red Sea, tell me about the ancient remaining parts of the Ark, tell me about the destruction of the city Sodom, and tell me about the proven major flood over the whole world aged thousands of years back.
evolution is not proven, period. no one has been able to back it up 100%, so quit telling us it's scientific. I do not believe the planets and sun and universe evolved nicely into place by chance just like that.
What Jesus did for us was documented and proved, you can't say Jesus didnt exist, you can only debate on His purpose. He died for 1 of the 3 reasons.
1) He was deluded into believing He's the Son of God.
2) He was lying.
3) He is telling the truth.
1) would someone crazy be capable of those miracles and teachings?
2) would you die for a lie that doesnt do you any good?
3) then what are u waiting for?
P.S. i know of more intelligent Christians than you Evolutionists, at least we don't sterotype Evolutionists as incredibly dim, we don't insult them, and i know far more successful Christians than Evolutionists.
2007-01-05 19:32:30
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answered by Anonymous
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maybe you know more and then its possible that you dont,ever really thought about the fact we all believe in something whether we admit it or not God give everyone a measure of faith,now what you do with it is up to you wonder why people think science is the answer science had to come from somewhere being a non-religious Christian to (not carnel, man-made)shows my light no dimness here
2007-01-05 19:41:03
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answered by loveChrist 6
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