if christians had to ask for forgiviness and repent their sins anway, then what was the point of Jesus death?

Question

if you still had to seek forgiviness from ur sins , and ask for repetance, then what was the point of Jesus crossification?

what if you never ask for forgiviness, will you go to Hell? if Jesus died for your sins as you claim , then why bother asking for forgiviness? you can do whatever sin you wish to do if u believe in Jesus.

Answer 1

Jesus did not die for our sins. He died because of our sins. There is a significant difference in dieing for sin and dieing because of sin. God did not kill Jesus we did. It was the sin of man and the action of man that killed Jesus. It was not a demand of the General Operations Director of the universe that the wages of sin is death. Death is the result of sin. Occasionally we can not see the connection but it is always there. When an action results in destruction it is sin even if the sinner does not know it. However it was not the unknown sins that killed Christ. Those who killed him did indeed know what they were doing they just did not know the magnitude of the results of what they did

Answer 2

If you really want to take Christian doctrine and theology to task, you should research it to understand it more accurately and precisely.
However, your question is a good one.
Many versions and sectors of Christian screw up this aspect.
Jesus death paid the penalty for sin. It was a real payment and a real penalty. But that is not the end of the story. Christianity is a very real relationship between the individual and Christ and His Father (and, of course, the Holy Spirit). It is ongoing, dynamic.
If you and I are friends, but you steal $100 of mine and go to jail. I can drop charges, get you out of jail, but the matter of our friendship needs healing. A poor example, but maybe it will clarify.
On going to hell if you never ask forgiveness, having become a sincere Christian, I don't think so, but the Bible does not say for sure.
Theoretically, yes, you could do any sin, still believe in Jesus, and still go to heaven. But this is not likely, in that Bible teaching questions the sincerity of your faith if you freely engage in serious sin on an ongoing basis.
One more point, repentance is not to eliminate the guilt of or penalty for sin. Repentance is for the person, to emphasize the seriousness of the sin and the need to choose not to repeat it in the future.
God doesn't need to hear confession; we need to speak it, openly acknowledge what we did. It's all about growth. We here to become, not to play legalistic games.

Answer 3

I see that problem too, and I think I've found the solution. There are a few interpretations on the meaning and purpose of the crucifixion, and you just might want to find yourself a different one.

The first one is that Jesus substituted his body for our sins, paying the price for us. This implies that there is a Karma that he had to put back into balance. Somebody has to suffer for wrong-doing, so Jesus allowed himself to take the heat. The trouble I have with this is that this implies that God isn't all-powerful. If God created everything and has control over everything, then He has control over Karma too. He wouldn't have to die on an earthly cross to make up for our sins... he'd simply stack the deck in our favor and let it slide. He is, after all, in total control.

One other one that I find more favorable is that Jesus is the Lamb of God. In ancient times, they didn't really have contracts. They had covenants. A covenant is basically a promise. It carries with it dishonor if it's broken, and that's about it, but to them, that was a lot. A lamb was slaughtered in half, and the parties walked between the halves. It was basically saying, "I'd rather die like this lamb than to break this covenant." Well, Jesus was this lamb. Dying on the cross was the most effective way He could promise and show His love to us. He did it to send a message. "I promise to love you. Will you love me in return?"

Thus, salvation is freely chosen by the saved in much the same way as sin and virtue are chosen.

Answer 4

First, I have to address one of these answers. His death made it POSSIBLE to approach God? Huh? God made something impossible so that he could make it possible? That makes no sense.

Anyway, sorry about the interruption. I don't understand the whole forgiveness thing either. If we need to be forgiven by God, then doesn't that imply that we disappointed him in some way? And since God is all knowing, then he would either have always been disappointed in us and always will be disappointed in us or he has never been disappointed in us and never will be because he's always known what we are going to do even before we're born - including asking for forgiveness. I don't see how a god can go through phases of emotional change - one minute he's happy, the next minute he's angry - as though what we do surprises him (?).

From kevinthen's answer: "I promise to love you. Will you love me in return?" - Now that's what I'm talking about.

Answer 5

So that christians can have power over their sins; therefore, by not asking for forgiveness is not truly being free'd from sin. Thus the point of Jesus' death and resserection is pointless, and you are without the power of the sin cleansing blood of Jesus.
And before his sacrifice and his battling satan for the keys of life, without forgiveness YOU are no better off for what he did for you then or now.

Answer 6

Jesus took our sins upon Himself at the cross...past, present and future.. If He had not done this, there would be no forgiveness for our sins.
We do not believe that you can continue in disobedience to God after salvation. All people sin. Christians stumble and fail a lot, but this does not give us a "free pass" to sin whenever we please and expect that God is ready to look the other way. If this is happening, you may want to examine your salvation.

Answer 7

Jesus' death was the perfect sacrifice. Sin requires atonement. God, our Heavenly Father, demands this atonement, but knows we in our fallen human state can't do this. Jesus was the lamb without blemish and was sacrificed as the atonement for our sins against His heavenly Father.

Those who go to hell are the ones that won't ask Jesus into their hearts and lives. Something has to be done with them after their judgement, so hell was widened and is reserved for them for eternity. Hell was originally intended for the fallen angels, but is now prepared for those who refuse Jesus Christ as their personal Savior.

To sin is to knowingly transgress the commandments of God. If you do this and become aware (consciousness affected by the decision) , you know you have done wrong against God. You ask for forgiveness as a confession of the sin and for the transgression to be healed. Sin creates a rip in the relationship with God and this rip can only be healed by God. If enough rips occur, you become completely without God and He leaves you to your sinful, fallen, and carnal self. This dark path leaves you wide open for demonic possession, too.

You cannot do whatever you want (continuing in sin) if you are Christ's. Your conscience won't let you. You might think you are doing something secretly and sinful and getting away with it, but you'll be so miserable that hopefully this will turn you from the sin. If you continue on too long, God reserves the right to pull you from this world and straight into his. It will be as if you escaped from a burning house with nothing but the clothes on your back. You will enter into eternal life poor and needy.

Answer 8

Jesus died for our sins -- but as with any gift, we are free to accept it, or reject it.

We ask for the forgiveness that Jesus' death on the Cross provides. But we must ask for it in order to receive it.

Medical science has come up with cures for all sorts of diseases that were previously considered deadly. But that doesn't mean that everybody is automatically cured -- we have to go to the doctor and ask for it.

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Answer 9

Bingo! We can but we don't purposely go and sin because that would make his sacrifice useless. Every time we acknowledge a sin, repent and turn away we are telling Him that we acknowledge His death and that His sacrifice is worthy, even now. He died for all our sins, past, present and future.

Answer 10

Jesus died for our sins in oder for us to HAVE THE OPPUTUNITY. he will never force anyone to accept the gift. he did it because he desperately wants to spend eternity with you in heaven

think of him offering to pay your debt so you can be with him in paradice forever

you can't just do anything you want because you beleive in Jesus. even satan and the demons believe, but that makes no difference. it takes more than believing in Jesus its accepting his offer to wash you clean of all the wrong you have done