Just as important as the Shroud of Turin and intricately connected with the Shroud its surprising that the Ovideo cloth, or 'Sudarium', has had such little media coverage, and is far less well known.
The Ovideo cloth claims to be the sudarium (face-cloth) applied to Jesus after the crucifixion and covered his face whilst transporting him to his tomb. These details are known from studying blood flows on the cloth as well as studying its recorded history. Using image overlay techniques Dr Alan Whanger was able to show that the frontal stains on the Sudarium share 70 points of coincidence with the Shroud, and the rear side shows 50. Thus there is very strong evidence that they both covered the same man at the same time. Both clothes also contain blood belonging to the rare AB blood group.
have you heard about it ?
http://www.tombofjesus.com/core/majorplayers/shroud-of-turin/shroud-p4.htm
2007-01-05 14:08:58 · 9 answers · asked by naseertx 1 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
I'm not catholic but I live in turin and it was really impressive and strong emotion to see the Shroud on 2000.
There are some things about the Shroud that are just science and other things that are faith. But you can't get rid of hundreds of studies.. hundreds of scientist and hundreds of years just saying "it is a fake". Perhaps it is worth going deeper. :)
Carbon dating tell us the it was made in 13th century but nothing tell us HOW it was made..
It is scientific that it wasn't "hand made" and that it covered a crucified corpse.
It is not "italian" because it contain tens of pollens that you can only find in the midle east.
It is not possible to demonstrate that it was Christ corpse or another one because crucifixion was really common in the middle east
but you can't exclude that it is because carbon dating is not an accurate science, it is accurate if you find something sealed by the Earth.
Same scientist that verified the dating said that hundreds of things can "regenerate" the dating of the Shroud..
If was handled many times for centuries.
It was exposed to bad weather many times, it was exposed to fire 3 times (last time few years ago but it was sealed but 30cm of glass)
Talking about impossible tell me HOW IT WAS MADE... because same scientist that date it tell us that a "negative" (like phograph) so big and so durable needed much more energy as they can produce both in 2000 years ago and 800 years ago
So.. I don't think it is "original" pic of jesus but it is not to easy to judge.
2007-01-09 05:34:22 · answer #1 · answered by Lycaone 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
You are not up on the fact that the Shroud of Turin was released to scientists and dated to the 13th or 14th century. I don't know a thing about the Oviedo Cloth. The fact that it matches up to the Shroud of Turin means zip, zero and nothing.
2007-01-05 14:29:29 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
The shroud doesn't even agree with scriptures. The jewish custom was to wrap the body with strips of linen and precious spices and aloes (100 pounds on Jesus case) and the head to be wrapped separately (not one piece as the shroud claims). Besides, ever try putting a cloth on your face and then laying it flat? The face pictured is extremely wider than the front view of a face as shown in the shround because the cloth wraps a 3 dimensional face and when layed flat is much wider. John 20 5 And he stooping down, and looking in, saw the linen clothes lying; yet went he not in. 6 Then cometh Simon Peter following him, and went into the sepulchre, and seeth the linen clothes lie, 7 And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself. Mark 15 46 And he bought fine linen, and took him down, and wrapped him in the linen, and laid him in a sepulchre which was hewn out of a rock, and rolled a stone unto the door of the sepulchre. John 19 39 And there came also Nicodemus, which at the first came to Jesus by night, and brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about an hundred pound weight. 40 Then took they the body of Jesus, and wound it in linen clothes with the spices, as the manner of the Jews is to bury.
2016-05-22 21:37:55 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I have never heard of the Oviedo Cloth. The Shroud of Turin has been proved to be a fake. The carbon dating on it does not date back to the time of Christ.
2007-01-05 14:20:14 · answer #4 · answered by Mary W 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Sure we've heard of it.
It's a fraud just like the shroud of turin or the james ossuary.
Face facts man, these items were manufactured to convince the gullible sheep. But when they are exposed to the light of science, they are revealed for the fakes they are.
2007-01-05 14:24:16 · answer #5 · answered by Yoda Greene 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I haven't heard about it but, I have heard the newest theory on the Shroud of Turin. It's believed now that it was created by Leonardo Da Vinci, and resembles other paintings he has painted of Jesus.
2007-01-05 14:29:38 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
The shroud of Turin is a fake. It was made during the 13th century.
2007-01-05 14:14:31 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
next thing we'll hear of is the "condom of jesus".
these catholic nutters think of everything.
what about the stigmata? i bet they're all fake.
2007-01-05 14:18:06 · answer #8 · answered by Pisces 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
tested and found to be fake
2007-01-05 14:14:59 · answer #9 · answered by dogpatch USA 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋