What do you really think is realistic? Mass deportation or amnesty for the ones already here?

Question

Please give a realistic plan for mass deportation if thats your choice.

UH OH it looks like their is a lot of hate and no real answers. WOW

Answer 1

Why would anyone want to uproot and destroy and split up families by mass deportation.

Amnesty. If you deport, what happens to the wives/husbands and children that are here legally, they lose everything and that is not a good thing.

This country was created by immigrants. Even if you were born here, someone in your family immigrated here at some point and anyone that agrees with deportation are hypocrites. Yes there are legal route to become legal residents. But not everyone has the money or are afraid that they will be deported while waiting for a decision which is not something that is possible for most. Amnesty is the way to go. If the people have been living here for more than 5 years, working and paying tax's then they have the right to live here, just like you and me. Every one of you here are all immigrants, and if you weren't, then your parents or grandparents were. Without immigrants, there would be no America. And if the mexicans are stealing your jobs (re: a comment from dogman302007) ) then you need to get more qualifications and get a better job.

I have a freind whose husband did not have papers. He had been living and working here for 22 years and had 3 children. They tried to deport him after 9/11 ( he did nothing wrong) They held him in jail for 6 months and then just deported him with no court appearance. His children and wife did not see him for 2 years (keep in mind his kids were 7, 5 and 2 years old) His wife struggled since she had been a stay at home mom while he brought home the bacon as a airconditioner installer. He is now back here legally, but there was no reason to destroy their lives and take away these kids father for 2 years. It also cost them thousands of $$ for attourney to help them. That is not fair for someone that has worked hard and paid tax's for 22 years. They were not sucking the welfare system, just living their lives that were uprooted by this government.

The only time I agree a person should be deported is if they commited a crime. And then it should be done in court on a case by case basis depending on the severity of the crime and whether or not this person is benefical or not to this country. A person should always have his day in court whether they are legal or not. The only other time a person should be deported is if they have not been here long, and do not have american children or spouse and has no ties that can destroy lives. Then they can be deported with the option of being able to apply for residency.

Answer 2

Gidget, those are not the only two answers. There is systematic enforcement at all places they get services, for example, so they are discouraged from coming and many go back on their own.

There is dismantling of benefit magnets as well as strict enforcement in employment.

I have got ideas, but chief amongst those is that we can't simply 'give amnesty to those here' without solving the problem and requiring no family reunification rights attach with any current legalization.

Did you go to public school here?

Have you assessed the quality of education in the school you attended, recently?

California estimated it would have to open a new elementary school EVERY DAY to keep up with projected flow including births here to immigrants.

We simply DON'T have the resources and infrastructure for it to go on like this.

Answer 3

Amnesty is the easy and politically correct way out, so that's what's going to happen. Mass deportation can be done in a systematic fashion that would take time, but it is realistic as well. But The Horror! How could one support such a racist, nativist act, the apologists would say. And thus that will never happen, but it could be done if there was a will.

Answer 4

Mass deportation is not realistic, and I didn't notice any good plans given here. I am hoping for amnesty and a plan that will work to shut the borders down.. Canada and Mexico. We need know who is coming into this country.. and it should have been done along time ago.

Answer 5

I think we should grant amnesty for the ones who are here and are not hard core criminal (molesters, murderers), and the ones who work and do not live off the government. Amnesty is more realistic. Mass deportation costs to much, and I don't want to pay for it out of my taxes, or do the job. Give the good people a chance.

Answer 6

The easiest cheap way is Amnesty. Mass deportation will set back the tax payers billions of dollars.
I'm just being reasonable and realistic.

Answer 7

Mass deportation doesn't make sense but slow leaisurely removal does. Stop the employers doing their dirt, close the border and start picking up the illegals as they break the law. Drunk driving etc. If you can't get work, and you can't get ahead and you are always looking over your shoulder ...who wants to live like that. Truly, I don't believe the Mexicans are starving in Mexico as they would have us beleive. Why would they continue to be SO Mexican (Mexicanos being the most illegal). Remember the March? Mexican flag everywhere..
We will solve it slowly but surely. I do think they will go. And course there will be SOME legalizations. But there will be no amnesty at this point. It's a politically dead word and idea ...and it doesnt work. We'd be back in the same problem in a year or so if they did that. Good question though.

Answer 8

Amnesty of course. Our only options are amnesty or some third way because mass deportation simply isn't possible.

I do not mean because of the logistic difficulties or the massive human suffering of the people being deported. The real reason why mass deportation simply cannot work is how do you find which people to deport? 300,000,000 of us (and "them") coming in to be vetted on whether we are citizens or not? Vetted by whom? Folks who can be bribed? Make mistakes? So we all get vetted twice? In widely separated places so as to not be so likely to be subject to the same mistakes or bribery rings? Perhaps we could all journey to our towns of birth and stay in stables and have children in mangers while being vetted?

Think on that. Just how many of your fellow citizens would go through that hell just to kick out productive Americans (that's right, and I don't mean it because they come from this hemisphere, I mean it in the sense all us Americans do) who do work cheaply that "real" Americans would refuse to do without rather high pay? Very few, I wager. Look at how many school levies fail while everyone moans about schools needing money to work properly.

So just forget mass deportation now and forever. It will never be an option. All those Russians wanted to choose between being free and rich or poor and slaves. Sadly for them, no matter how much they resented it and wished it were not so, they really only had poor and free or poor and slaves to choose from. So too us.

I do balk at mass amnesty unless it is a finely grained one with a lot of work involved. Just granting it and putting people on a path to citizenship with no effort taken particular to each one's circumstances is foolish, or, at best ill-considered.

But it is the only REAL idea on offer at present. We can though, muddle along like at present for a few more years before having to settle on something. So... any actually workable ideas?

Answer 9

In my humble opinion, there must be a way to "realistically" enforce American immigration laws without "Granting" any illegal alien any form of reward for their criminal activities.
Why must the Pro- illegal crowd always begin every argument with "giving" criminals a way out of becoming responsible for their actions?
If you raised a child to believe in this manner, ie., no responsibility for your actions and constant pardoning of unacceptable behavior, You would have a sociopathic child running loose in society. That would not reflect well on your parenting skills, would it?
"Realistic" answers are going to be tough answers to the problems we face. "Realistic" solutions are going to cost everyone, not just a few who would rather give millions of criminals a pardon in order to cut costs. Amnesty may save a dollar now, but it will cost much more in the economic & societal long run.

Answer 10

Hell NO to Amnesty... what reward people that break our Immigration laws?
Mass Deportation to me is the only option to combat people that have no respect for the Immigration laws realistic once the govt find you in the country illegally good-bye!!!