For christians who want to break down the separation of church/state in the US?

Question

We all know how muslim factions have their own militias that create chaos in Middle East countries and often can not be controlled by those countries' military.
What if the same thing happened within the US? What if religious factions had their own militias?
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20061231_chris_hedges_americas_holy_warriors/
(notice the part about these militias roaming the streets of New Orleans)

Stephen, you are of course correct about the separation not being written in the constitution, but I have to say at this stage, that is a moot point. We all think of it that way. Just like the right to privacy

And if really think police will prevent these militias, have you seen the souther border lately?

Answer 1

The break down of the sepperation of church and state could prevent such militias. Right now, the sepperation of church and state prohibits the state in saying how a religion can run and what it can teach so these such militias exist and nothing can be done about it until, and unless they do start killing people. Which might happen but if it was nipped in the bud with the state saying "No, you cannot practise this way" then it could be prevented before they have enough people to really do any damage.

In the case of the middle east, the religion runs the state so, they state cannot do much. The breakdown i would like to see is one that says "Practice the religion you want, unless it requires you to harm someone else"

Answer 2

I am a Christian and a minister. I do not want the state involved in religion.

The first ammendment does not say that Christians cannot vote, endorse candidates to public office, or even run for public office.

What it does is limit the governments role in religion.
It is like a oneway mirror.
The government cannot make any laws that would treat religious citizens any different than they affect the general population.
However they also cannot bar religious citizens from participation in their local, county, state or national governments, or put any restrictions on the method of worship, or their beliefs, so long as they do not break the laws that are made for everyone.

grace2u

Answer 3

Unfortunately, they already exist here. The KKK is a Christianity-based militia, and we've seen a number of smaller religion-based cults/militias come and go. And of course, there are heavily armed local militias all across America that are generally dominated by devout Christians that oppose all gun control and immigration, enjoy confrontation and would take a life to protect property, and hate minorities, much like their admittedly more potent cousins in the Middle East. They are certainly supported, if not directly (yet), by the anti-gun control, anti-immigration evangelical Christian community that encourages divisiveness, conflict, and a "what's in it for me" mentality.

Answer 4

Muslim factions do so because the governments there are incapable of keeping peace and order.

When that happens in the US, similar groups will arise. Arguably, gangs provide some of the same "belonging" and order that the militias provide in the Middle East.

Answer 5

There is no separation of church and state written in the U.S. Constitution. Read if for yourself. You won't find it anywhere. Everyone is ignorant on this lie. Separation of church and state was implied in a letter written to the Danbury, CT Baptist Church by Thomas Jefferson. Again it is not written in the Constitution.

We have the right called freedom of religion...........not freedom from religion.

Religious factions do have their own militias. You can find them in compounds and they have names like KKK and Nazi skinheads. These groups hide under Christianity but you'll have to tell me why Christianity if Jesus said to love your neighbor and bless those who persecute you (and He did).

This wouldn't happen in the U.S. We have an enforcement policy in this country called "police". And believe it or not, they actually enforce the law.

How's that for truth?

Answer 6

Separation of church and state is CRUCIAL to our continued way of life. And NO, it's not a "one way wall" as many Christians erroneously assume. Government can't stick it's hands into religion and vice versa, religion can't stick it's hands into government. The government cannot tell ANYONE how to worship and the church can't tell the government to legislate it's religious doctrine.

We've already started to blur the line... we can SEE what happens when the line becomes stamped out of sight. The separation is in place for a very good reason. Religious freedom... freedom OF and FROM religion.

Answer 7

This question has no bearing on the concept of "separation of Church and State". What it means is that the State cannot endorse one religion over another, it cannot have a state run religion.

Answer 8

In a perfect world for Christians, everyone would be Christian so there would be no wall to break down. Every one would be legislative according to God's Will.

Answer 9

Democracy, not Theocracy.