This is based on Kalaams cosmological arguement showing that in order to get to today you must have had a yesterday, and so on down to the "beginning". But if there was not a beginning we would not be able to have a today because in an actual infinite there can be no today unless you have gone past the infinite (in other words, there had to be a beginning). This is relative to Zeno's puzzle. If there where an actual infinite, we would not be able to move. Therefore there must be a being who created the universe that is outside of the universe.
2007-01-05 05:04:55 · 6 answers · asked by ἡ ἐκλογὴ 4 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Defining a point in time past as a zero is just another way of saying that there was a beginning. If so, thus, one to create the beginning.
2007-01-05 05:29:48 · update #1
sgt cezh, your second paragraph IS Zeno's question, nice.
2007-01-05 05:32:25 · update #2
God is eternal and spirit. A spirit is non material and does not take up time or space, there is no universe that He occupies.
2007-01-05 05:38:46 · update #3
Keep in mind, and not be be facetious, philosophy is merely nothing more than "Mental Masturbation" It is certainly virtually meaningless, and all boils down to semantics. There are certain areas such as ethics that have value, but for the main you may as well continue the argument of the middle ages, "How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?".
As regards the so-called "actual infinite", keep in mind, that to traverse a straight line from point 1 to point 3, one must cross point 2. In order to cross point two, one must cross point 1/2, to cross that one must cross1/4, ad infinitum. Theoretically, it is impossible to ever reach point three, as there are an infinite number of points to cross. This same holds true with the singularity of a so-called black hole. Thus our perception must be skewed, or this is all illusory.
I prefer to agree with you, somebody's out there, and he knows what's going on.
2007-01-05 05:16:13 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋
The integers do not have a beginning or end yet one can traverse them. You start at zero, and count both forward and backwards. So for instance 0, +1, -1, +2, -2 , ...
Some have hypothesized that time has a beginning at the big bang in both the positive and negative directions.
This analogy shows how your argument is flawed. You don't start at negative infinity, you start at zero and work outwards.
2007-01-05 05:16:34 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
There was a beginning, the Big Bang. Hopefully there will be a big ending, the Big Shrink, for starting another cycle with a new Big Bang.
If there is somebody outsider who created the universe, this outsider is in another universe. Who created that universe? Why that outside can be eternal, and the universe cannot be?
2007-01-05 05:09:45 · answer #3 · answered by blapath 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
I don't know about philosophical arguments but I know that science can't determine if the universe had a beginning until it develops a theory of quantum gravity and until that happens I remain unconvinced that there was a starting point. That the universe has always existed seems equally credible to me.
2007-01-05 05:11:00 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
It could be that today is an illusion. It doesn't exist but we think it does.
2007-01-05 05:07:48 · answer #5 · answered by the Boss 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Your mama would be very proud of you my son; you're so smart!
2007-01-05 05:10:11 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋