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Did Jesus ever said that he will die for our sins???

Why does Christians make things up like this???

2007-01-05 04:40:57 · 15 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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You are absolutely correct- Christianity, as we know it today, was formulated over many years through the Ecumenical Councils. It was during these councils that leaders of various Christian sects got together and decided what uniform Orthodox Christianity would be. The religion that exists today is not necessarily representative of what Jesus's teachings were.

Furthermore, I would point out that Saul of Tarsus, whose works form most of the backbone of Christianity, did not know Jesus while he was alive. He was never in his actual presence, never heard him speak and did not get any of his living wisdom. The Gospels themselves were also written well after Jesus's death. Modern Christianity also takes interpretations from various early Christian leaders such as St. Augustine, St. Thomas Aquinas, Iranaeus of Lyon, and many others.

Christianity is a DOGMA made by men. Everything the modern Christian believes does so because they were told to believe this way based by decisions of men in the centuries after Jesus died.

I hope this answers your question.

2007-01-05 04:54:17 · answer #1 · answered by E D 4 · 1 0

The name "Christian" came after Jesus died and rose and ascended to heaven. His followers were first called Christians at Antioch in Syria (Acts 11:26). However the teachings of Christianity itself, which is the worship of the true God, was taught by Jesus and the prophets all the way back to Adam.

Yes Jesus did say that he would die for our sins.
(Matthew 20:28; Mark 10:45; John 2:19-22; 10:15, 10:17-18)
The prophet Isaiah also said that this would be the role of the Messiah (Isaiah 53).

Christians did not make these things up, there are there in the Bible, and Christians did not change or corrupt the Bible unlike what some claim.

2007-01-05 13:28:54 · answer #2 · answered by Beng T 4 · 0 0

Jesus (Yeshua ben Yosef) was a First Century Jewish teacher who practiced 1rst Century Judaism - well, actually a form of 1rst Century Judaism concretized by the Essenes. The Final Supper was actually a Pesach (Passover) meal. Christianity as a name and as a distinct religion definatley came after Jesus' death. Nothing in Jesus's teachings, as written by the authors of the Gospels, suggests otherwise. We learn in Paul's letters (the religion really should be called Paulism because he more than anyone else created Christianity and its major theology) the movement started by Yeshua Ben Yosef was initially called "The Way" and all followers were required to first convert to Judaism (circumcision, kosher food, and baptism) by the Jerusalem Church. Paul decided to focus on Gentiles and stopped requiring conversion before allowing people to follow "The Way." Paul's letters (written in the late 40s and early 50s CE) are more theological and do very little in the way of describing Jesus or his teachings. It is through the Gospels Mark (c 70 CE), Matthew (c 75-80 CE), and Luke (c 80-85 CE) that the person Jesus is given a real character arc. I doubt that, as a practicing Jew, Jesus would've personally stated that he was the sacrifice for all of mankind's sins. He may have claimed to be the Meshiach, several other Jews throughout history have also done so, but then Jews of the 1rst century understood the Messiah in entirely different terms from how Christians currently construct it.

2007-01-05 13:17:57 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Re: "Yes Jesus did say that he would die for our sins.
(Matthew 20:28; Mark 10:45; John 2:19-22; 10:15, 10:17-18)
The prophet Isaiah also said that this would be the role of the Messiah (Isaiah 53).

Christians did not make these things up, there are there in the Bible, and Christians did not change or corrupt the Bible unlike what some claim. "

You contradict yourself. Like you said (I'm paraphrasing), The guys who wrote Mark, Matthew, and Luke, as well as Paul, told the story they way THEY wanted it to go. You really don't know what Jesus said - you know what the authors of the Gospels wanted you to beleive Jesus said. I love the logical slight of hand which results in the Bible being used to prove itself.

The guys who wrote the New Testament obviously read the Torah and used what they read to give credibility to the New Testament - Duh!

2007-01-05 16:40:19 · answer #4 · answered by Febra P 1 · 0 0

Jesus implied many things about his life and his purpose to those who knew him and, later, the story of his life was passed on to others---passed down orally first and later written down. Christ never spoke of Christianity per se but did---according to the scriptures---say that He was necessary for salvation (mostly through the writings of the apostles Paul and John who both knew him through faith and not through actually living amongst Him). Who knows if Christ would approve of the term "Christianity". He would probably just prefer "Truth" or "The Glory of Life" or something that accurately describes the real meaning of His teachings and not a pigeonholing term like "Christianity" that now means absolutely nothing. We can never know with any certainty whether or not Jesus actually claimed the things His name is attributed to today. All we can do is gauge whether or not we feel sin exists by looking at ourselves (not others) and decide whether absolvement from them is even necessary. Christianity is objective but reached individually through subjectivity. Ignore everyone elses opinion. What do you think?

2007-01-05 12:58:10 · answer #5 · answered by Weldon 2 · 0 0

Jesus really taught and continues teaching through the Bible his way which is to die to self and follow Him. To follow Him you must die to your selfishness which also means to die to your sins. The word Christian is simple in that it means to follow Christ and His way. The first Christians came after Jesus was resurrected from the death. The disciples preached the word of God after being filled with the Holy Spirit promised by Jesus giving them power to spread the good news of eternal life through the repentance of sins and trust that Jesus will save them (us) from our sins and the wrath of God.

Jesus repeatedly said He would die for our sins. Just read the gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Remember, Jesus didn't die to make a good man better, or to make a bad man good.......but to make a dead man alive.

To be born again you must repent of your sins and trust Jesus to save you...........for the rest of your life.

Peace

2007-01-05 12:58:11 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Jesus set down the example for the Christian church through his teachings. Yes he said he would die for our sins

2007-01-05 12:48:26 · answer #7 · answered by mortgagegirl101 6 · 1 0

Jesus taught a form of practical philosophy based on compassion and tolerance not any theological doctrines. Humanity took his teachings and constructed a vast edifice of meaningless dogma around them.

2007-01-05 12:44:41 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

He told his apostles he would die.
He said that the Son of Man would have to lay down his life for the sins of the world.

2007-01-05 12:43:25 · answer #9 · answered by . 7 · 3 1

John 11:25-26: "Jesus said to her, 'I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die..."
John 12:48: "He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him-- the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day."

2007-01-05 12:46:27 · answer #10 · answered by mariedockins 2 · 1 3

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