Idont need to think,I know,what is usually the case is you got saved,and felt like you had all the joy in the world;but after getting saved,and maybe after just a tiny bit of prayer;you forgot or didnt know that after you get saved,you need to CONTINUE in faith and prayer.It's not once and done,it's a prolonged continual faith and prayer.But of course you didnt know or forgot this,so you got frustrated,didnt ask someone about what you didnt understand,came to your own false conclusion,and you unfortunately left the grace of God.
Do you think maybe now you should of asked a mister or stronger man or woman of God about what you didnt understand so you would still be in the grace of God?
James 1:5-If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
2007-01-04 16:49:44 · 21 answers · asked by Maurice H 6 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
hahahahahahaha why do you even bother with them? It's a loss cause. They will never understand. Just move on and be the best Christian that you can be. Let them drown in their own ambiguity and misery. It has got to be miserable to have this much despise in their hearts that they have to spend all their time debunking Christians and their God 24/7. geesh. and yes they are ambiguous. They know there is a possibility of a God and this is why the spend time on Answers and elsewhere ridiculing Christians and researching the bible to find contradictions. Their statements do not make any sense and they keep rationalizing God with human logic and saying I need proof. The fact is, if God appeared in front of their eyes with Jesus standing next to him, they still would not believe. They would rationalize that. Why does God have to give them proof knowing that they wouldn’t believe him anyway? I need proof to believe something? My god, then that means we need to discredit all of our history then because I surely haven’t seen any of our ancient notable figures. Let them go Maurice, for your own sanity let them go. It’s really not worth it. Look at yourself and look at them. We will always have something that they do not have and that is the love of god and Jesus Christ and the protection of them and their Angels wherever we are and wherever we go. This is why I am here today. I am truly blessed Maurice. God exists as well as the Holy Spirit. As long as you and I know that as well as other Christians, we will always be on top. Praise God.
2007-01-05 03:24:12 · answer #1 · answered by ♣DreamDancer♣ 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Thank you for that examination of my soul. I'm totally amazed with the insight you seem to posess. It is though, ultimatley completely inaccurate.
I was a Christian music minister for 25 years, so your analysis of a short stay with Christ is lacking. Your statement that I may have prayed for a "short while", is completely bogus.
Here's what happened ... I was a Christian (though some will argue this point) for quite some time. When I was 22, I had a past life experience (Read by Christians as a demonic influence) and whilst still a Christian, I began to study other religions ( Led astray). I found the Pagan faiths to be much better equipped to explain the multitudinous experiences of the human condition as well as being able to fit with current Quantum theory. (Believing Science over the Bible)
Having done a great amount of study (without tossing the Bible out the window), I became an ordained minister in my Pagan faith (to address your point of asking a "mister" (I believe you meant "minister").
I AM a minister, and should you wish to discuss matters of faith, I'd be more than glad to do so. I understand fairly well the Christian faith, and know where it is lacking. I also understand my own faith and have very good reasons for having adopted it.
2007-01-04 17:02:42 · answer #2 · answered by Deirdre H 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I did. And I read the Bible and the writings of the Church's Doctors, including the entirety of the Summa Theologicae. I read the bible more times during and after the leaving than I did before. I consulted my spiritual counselor on a weekly basis.
None of them had the answers. Prayer had the same result.
Then I started to actually use my brain instead of ignoring it, and realized that even if God exists, Jesus failed the prophecies of the Messiah and that Christianity, and hence Islam, were both bunk. At that point, I didn't see any reason from my other studies that any other religion was any better factually, so I just left the whole mess.
Thank you for your concern though.
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Hey Lobik -- you just judged my heart. Congradulations, you just commited the big sin. You know that speck in my eye? The splinter? Yeah... go ahead and get that log out of your own first, huh?
2007-01-04 16:58:22 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
A minister or "man of God" was the reason why I left the church in the first place. Atheists are not as stupid as you christians. We at least do research before we decide on our religious beliefs. We don't just sit and have our religion told to us from birth. Do not even presume to say that we all turn away from religion because we "forgot to ask questions". Where did you get this information? None of it is, at all, factual. Take your opinions somewhere else, and quit trying to convert us. We don't need to be saved, especially by people of ignorance.....such as you.
2007-01-04 16:57:18 · answer #4 · answered by Abby C 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
No, it's just the more I learned, the more ridiculous it all got. None of it has any sensible logic. There is too much contradiction. The whole concept is of fairy tales. People don't need the Bible or religion to be good and descent to one another. It's the same with all religions. Each is pointing the finger at all others saying every one else is wrong and they are all going to hell. Who needs that nonsense?
RELIGION IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL!!!
2007-01-04 17:08:33 · answer #5 · answered by Yeah, it's good 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Well I'm glad you found a way of life that doesn't require you to think. Seems to work well for you. As for your knowledge, with all the crazy assumptions you've made there, it's no wonder you're completely wrong.
And please... please... if nothing else in this response reaches you, which I'm guessing it won't, at least listen to this. I'm sure your God will agree with me on this point, so don't worry that you're putting your faith in jeopardy. Thus, the following:
It's atheist, not athiest. We are those without theism, not those who are the most athy. And this is singular. I'm guessing you wanted to address more than one of us.
2007-01-04 18:02:06 · answer #6 · answered by Phil 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
you *know* you can generalize what it is that causes so many folks to bail out of Christianity? hmmmm how about i just discovered that being an arrogant know it all was dishonest and that self honesty became more important to me (and "God") than religious dogma? how about i decided that Christianity was a primitive construct that wasn't anywheres near HUGE enough to encompass all that "God" is and "God" can't be confined between the pages of a book of myths written by some ancient nomadic goat herders? what if i decided that human blood sacrifice is disgusting and despicable, not a holy event to praise and that any Self respecting supreme being would be far above the desire for such gross appeasements? what if "God" revealed to me that my mind is the greatest tool i have been provided and to stifle it beneath layers of superstition is the "sin" of waste? what if i came to understand that hell is a man made propaganda devise used to frighten people into conformity and obedience to authority and since there is no true hell there's no need to be "saved" from it?
see? my reasons don't quite fit into your assumed knowledge of what makes an EX Christian tick. oops!
PS. and to you other know it alls who think there can be no such thing as an EX Christian... who made you privy to my deepest internal conversations with "God" that you feel you're qualified to determine the value of my sincerety and devotion. **rolls eyes** on the cusp you illustrate one of the main motivations for my departure from Christanity. i was like you! YUK!
2007-01-04 17:10:33 · answer #7 · answered by nebtet 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
I agree, there is no such thing as a former Christian. If a person is truly saved, he stays saved. This just illustrates the fact that there are many false conversions. While we can have eternal assurance, we shouldn't have eternal assumption. If you are a Christian you should always be examining your life to see that you are truly in the faith.
2007-01-04 16:56:42 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋
You shouldn't judge other people's lives or their beliefs--or lack of beliefs--based solely upon your own conjecture. This is especially true of large groups of people--clearly, you don't know all or even most atheists or former Christians.
2007-01-04 16:52:36 · answer #9 · answered by N 6 · 3⤊ 0⤋
There are no gods in the grace of which to be.
How many times have you been told not to quote from your holy text to non-christians?
2007-01-04 16:53:45 · answer #10 · answered by eldad9 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋