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2007-01-04 09:24:33 · 4 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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When Was Jesus Really BORN?

Millions of "nominal" Christians, who think they are followers of the religion of Jesus Christ, have been deceived. Not only have they foolishly embraced erroneous "traditions" as if they were "Christian," but they have been lied to, by preachers, ministers, and priests. Most have ASSUMED that they were worshipping Christ! Yet Jesus Christ Himself warned: "Howbeit IN VAIN DO THEY WORSHIP ME, teaching for doctrines THE COMMANDMENTS OF MEN. For laying aside the commandment of God, ye HOLD THE TRADITION OF MEN . . ." (Mark 7:7-8).

In the gospel of Matthew, we find Christ says, "Ye HYPOCRITES, well did Isaiah prophesy of you, saying, 'This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouths, and honoreth me with their lips; but THEIR HEART IS FAR FROM ME. But IN VAIN do they WORSHIP me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of MEN" (Matt.15:7-9).

What is the truth? What is the evidence regarding when Jesus Christ was born? Was it anywhere NEAR December 25? And if not, then why believe a lie, and practice and perform a lie?

The birth of Christ is not known for certain, but we can know the approximate time of year when He was born! In the book of Luke we read that the father of John the Baptist was Zacharias, and he was a priest who served at the temple in Jerusalem. He was "of the course of Abia" (Luke 1:5). While serving at the temple, he was informed by an angel that his wife was to have a son, who was to be named "John." After this, Zacharias finished "the days of his ministration," and "departed to his own house" (v.23). "And after those days, his wife Elizabeth conceived . . ." (v.24).

The names of the different courses of priests that served at the Temple are given in I Chronicles 24:1-19. "Abia" or "Abijah" was the EIGHTH course. According to the Jewish historian Josephus, each one of these courses served at the Temple for one week, the first course serving the first week of Nisan, in the spring (compare I Chron.27:1-2), and then each course in its own order. All the priests served during the annual festivals (Passover in spring, Pentecost, and then Tabernacles in the fall). After six months, the order would be repeated, thus each "course" would serve two weeks during a year.

The course of Abijah, then, would have served the eighth week in the rotation. The eighth week from Nisan 1, leaving out the week of Passover, when all the priests served, would have been IYAR 27 TO SIVAN 5, the day just before Pentecost, which generally fell on Sivan 6. After serving a week in the Temple, Zacharias would have remained another week in Jerusalem, because of the Feast of Shavuot or Pentecost that week. Therefore, he returned home shortly after this, and his wife then conceived. This would have been about the middle of June. If we add nine months to this date, the normal time for the gestation of a human baby in the womb, John the Baptist would have been born about the middle of March, in the spring, shortly before the Passover.

Jesus was conceived about six months after John (Luke 1:24-31, esp. verse 26). This would suggest that Jesus Christ was conceived about the middle of December. This would place His birth nine months, or 270 days, later -- or the month of September!

The Origin of Christmas
The following may be found in Werner Keller's book The Bible as History
"December 25 is referred to in documents as Christmas Day in A.D. 324 for the first time. Under the Roman emperor Justinian [A.D. 527-565] it was recognized as an official holiday. An old Roman festival played a major part in the choice of this particular day. December 25 in ancient Rome was the 'Dies Natali Invictus,' 'the birthday of the unconquered sun,' the day of the winter solstice and at the same time, in Rome, the last day of the Saturnalia, which had long since degenerated into a week of unbridled carnival . . ." (p.331).

What is WRONG with this picture? Why does the so-called "Christian church" choose a day to celebrate Christ's birth which was identified as the day of the birth of the unconquered sun, the day of the winter solstice, the "shortest day of the year," when the sunlit part of the days start becoming longer again? What does this have to do with Christ, anyway? Was Jesus Christ born anywhere near December 25? Werner Keller continues:

"Meteorologists as well as historians and astronomers have something of importance to contribute to this question of fixing the date of the birth of Jesus. According to St. Luke: 'And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night' (Luke 2:8).

"Meteorologists have made exact recordings of the temperature at Hebron. This spot in the southern highlands of Judah exhibits the same climatic conditions as Bethlehem, which is not far distant. The temperature readings show over a period of three months that the incidence of frost is as follows: December -- 2.8 degrees; January -- 1.6 degrees; February ---0.1 degrees. The first two months have also the greatest rainfall in the year: approximately 6 inches in December, and nearly 8 inches in January. According to all existing information the climate of Palestine has not changed appreciably in the last 2,000 years, consequently modern meteorological observations can be taken as a basis.

"At Christmas-time Bethlehem is in the grip of frost, and in the Promised Land no cattle would have been in the fields in that temperature. This fact is born out by a remark in the Talmud to the effect that in that neighborhood the flocks were put out to grass in March and brought in again in October. They remained out in the open for almost eight months.

"Around Christmas-time nowadays both animals and shepherds are under cover in Palestine.

"What St. Luke tells us points therefore to the birth of Jesus having taken place BEFORE the onset of winter . . ." (p.331-332).

The time for the birth of Christ is nowhere near December 25. Why does the Church go along with the world and choose to "celebrate" His "birthday" at the Number one pagan festival of drunken debauchery?

2007-01-06 12:17:45 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Actually he would have been born in the Sept. / Oct. time period. Melissa is right about shepherds tending their flocks all night which, in that part of the world was not a possibility in December due to the weather. Also, his ministry was 3 1/2 years culminating in his death on Nisan 14th --- around March / Early April on our calender.

She is also right about Constantine deciding on December 25th. It was at the counsel of Nicea (sp?) where many un-christian (pagan) beliefs were incorporated into the Christian religion in order to incorporate the pagans willingly and non-violently into the empire that had assimilated them. December 25th was designated the birth of the Sun God by pagans at the time (approx. when daylight started to become longer --- winter equinox).

2007-01-04 19:29:33 · answer #2 · answered by OatesATM 3 · 2 0

I applaud the previous answerer for digging up that information, I knew of an internet site which has the same data. We can be certain that Maschiach would have been born near to the Feast of Tabernacles which concludes the High Holy days. I have found an alternative source additionally which has another viewpoint, but is right on in terms of what is really important.

2007-01-07 12:48:35 · answer #3 · answered by Peace W 3 · 0 0

No, he was born sometime in April according to old Jewish calanders. Shepherds wouldn't be tending to flocks of sheep in the winter time anyways. December 25th was a pagan holiday and Constantine picked that day to celebrate the birth of Jesus to transiton the empire into Christianity when he converted, since it was already a holiday.

2007-01-04 18:06:49 · answer #4 · answered by Melissa 7 · 1 1

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