To the people who don't believe in God?

Question

Answer me this please, just starting off by something simple:

For example how does a pencil, book come into existence? By a creator yes?

Say the pencil is created in a factory, who created the factory?

Your answer might be an engineer.. Who created that engineer? Obviously there must be a creator


Similarly who created the sun, the moon, the stars etc? There has to be a creator for everything.

And that is God the almighty!!!

What are your thougts?
(Sensible replies thankyou)

All of creation goes back to the Creator Who created all things. No one created Him; He created everything other than Himself. This is what makes sense and is logical. This creator is Allaah, may He be glorified and exalted.

With regard to what our religion tells us, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told us about this question, where it comes from, and how to respond to it.

Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “People will keep on asking question until someone will say, ‘Allaah created the universe, but who created Allaah?’ Whoever encounters anything like that, let him say, ‘Amantu Billaah (I believe in Allaah).’”

Missy Moo- by the way i DONT want to change any way. read the question first instead of of throwing a tantrum!!

PLEASE NOTE i wrote "What are your thougts?"

I did NOT say convert to my religion

Answer 1

Lets go deeper, who created your heart that beats many times a second, your lungs in which air flows through and throughout, your kidneys, your liver....etc. what about the world that rotates so submissively in our Galaxy and within our milk way that lies in this universe...all going about submissively...like a Muslim...A Muslim is he who submits to the will of Allah All Mighty. A Muslim is the child that is born bc he/she submitted themselves, the leaves that fall from the tree, the All-Mercy-full knew about, submitted itself to Him. Allah the Greatest of All.

Answer 2

my thoughts are that this question is pointless.
the Muslim religion is outdated: the women are treated as second class, there is ignorance of scientific proof.

there does not have to be a creator for everything. you just say that because you are dealing with your insignificance in this huge universe.

i understand that people need to find some meaning and have an emotional crutch when things happen that cannot easily be explained. that is why there is more than one religion and more than one "god".
i do not understand why people feel the need to justify their explaination to others. if it works for you, leave it at that. other people will find their own explanations.

i think that the universe was created by the laws of physics and also by spirituality. i believe in "the big bang" due to the theories of 'red shift' and evidence gained from exploration such as samples from comets.
i believe that love has shaped this whole planet into the society and community it is. there are people who bury their heads in religion but there were people existing before religion and there will be people existing after religion.

i think God is just a theory, like the theory that the world was flat!

Answer 3

I would say your logic is flawed. Pencils and factories not only have obvious signs of workmanship upon them, but their creation and design are also part of our historical record. Human beings and celestial bodies do not have any obvious signs of work done upon them. The origins of human beings is not part of our historic record, so we have only what we can observe. The origins of celestial bodies have been observed and studied by astronomers for some time now, and it has been noted that they are the result of certain conditions naturally leading to their formation. The best scientific evidence we have also supports the hypothesis that life is likewise the natural result of certain circumstance occurring. In short, these things appear to be the result of how material and energy in the universe interact. Now, it seems reasonable to me that someone might come to the conclusion that some great intelligence set all this into motion and/or created the system by which reality operates; however, that is by no means the only reasonable conclusion to draw.

You should not mistake your faith for reasoning, nor should you want it to be so. Faith is valuable in its on right. Let it be what it is, and do not try to use it to "prove" anything.

Answer 4

Sensible replies are only given to sensible questions... which this is not.

"For example how does a pencil, book come into existence? By a creator yes?"
Not by a "creator"... by human hands, from natural resources... in this case, trees.

But to get to your point...
"Similarly who created the sun, the moon, the stars etc? There has to be a creator for everything."
I counter your argument on two points.
1. That the sun, moon, stars, etc. natural entities had to have been created by a higher being is a non sequitur... it does not follow logically and it is not a necessity.
2. If there has to be a Creator for everything, then who created God? If you are going to assert one, you MUST assert the other.

Answer 5

"Similarly who created the sun, the moon, the stars etc?"

The error here is the use of the word who. It is more appropriate to ask what. Using the word who has the effect of limiting possible answers to some anthropomorphic God. Using what opens up more possibilities and in fact allows for the correct answer which would be the laws of physics created the sun, the moon and the stars.

Answer 6

Think about the possiblity that everything has always existed. No creator. It just is. For many people, they cannot concieve of an infinity, so they must create a beginning and an end. Matter transforms, it does not begin or end. That includes a pencil, a book, you, and me.

Answer 7

But how do you know that the "creator" isn't just the universe? Or the universes outside the universe...
If there is a creator, PROVE that it is a "God", or anything defined in a religion, especially the Christian faith.

Even scientists don't exclude the possibility of a"creator", its' just what exactly that 'creator' is is what is up for debate,
and you can not prove 1 thing, from life after death, to an old man on a cloud.

Answer 8

You are right, the big bang did not happen by itself because otherwise those atoms, electrons and nuetrons are very clever to create themselves and then know how and why to collide with each other to create the universe. However, God is not Allah, He is Jesus Christ, and Jesus said "I tell you the truth, no one can come to the Father except through me." Jesus was not a prophet, He is God.

Answer 9

The engineer was created by his parents, and not by 'a Creator'. There's your logical flaw right there.

And by studying fossils, we have conclusively determined the evolution of humans from earlier ancestors.

There's a proof against God creating us in his image right there.

And I find it interesting that you can only answer the 'first cause' question by stating a first cause that explicitly does not have a first cause. Strange logic there.

I think this question is why atheists are so condescending of religious people, mostly because the reasons you give for your beliefs are so ridiculous and illogical that an atheist has already rejected them.

Answer 10

Who Created the Creator?

And even if there were a creator he certainly wouldnt be called Allah, because that name is a creation of MAN, flesh & blood like you and I.

Answer 11

Old argument, and not a very persuasive one.

If there HAS to be a creator for everything, who created the creator? And who created that creator? This can go on forever.

You can't apply a rule like "There has to be a creator for everything." and then decide where it stops.