To mmm those who believe in the original sin and salvation through Jesus.?

Question

Can you consider the fact that the Jesus did not die to clean the sins of humanity? Please give it a thought.
If we assume that he did not, What would it mean to you ?
If there were no original sin, how would that change the value of your acts in this life?

Answer 1

If Christ had not come yet, then we would be waiting for Him to come the way that Jews are; Christ was God manifest in the flesh...so if He hadn't come then, as He did, then we would wait for his arrival...not that hard to figure out...I would still do and be who I am through God and my want to please Him as His child...Have a nice day!

Answer 2

1. Very good, Jesus died for those that the Father had given him, not for all of humanity.
2. I do assume this. Welcome to Calvinism, the correct way to interpret the Scriptures. If you're thinking John 3:16, then the "world" becomes the world of His own according to John 3:18 and those who stand "already condemned" before the Lord.
3. If there were no original sin, then Calvinists would be completely wrong. But think about it, if babies don't need a Savior, then wouldn't giving them a choice at an age of reason be rather cruel? Better that youngster die early than risk an eternity in hell later through a choice with a sin nature attached.

Answer 3

Question 1. yes i can consider that Jesus did not die to cleanse the sins of humanity.
Question 2. that would change all biblical principles, and we would still be living in the time of the old testament.
Question 3. being that there is no original sin that would mean that we were not disconnected from god, because original sins is what caused the separation from man to god. so we would still be living in his will. there for i do not believe there would be value, in any of our acts, cause it would not matter either way. i would still try to be the best person that i could be.

Answer 4

Can you consider the fact that the Jesus did not die to clean the sins of humanity? Please give it a thought.
If we assume that he did not, What would it mean to you ?
If there were no original sin, how would that change the value of your acts in this life?

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I'm not following your logic.

To consider a point as a fact, or as you mentioned "If we assume", one must have a logical basis for putting forward such a thesis. But you didn't provide me with one. I came to the point I did in my life, from an athiestic view, to the belief in an individual Creator, because of reasoning. Science. Proofs. Logic. You then asked me to make a statement of action for my entire life based on something with not logical support to said thesis.

I mean, we can "if" forever on points that lead no where.

If the earth was still flat, Magellan would have . . . .

It just leads no where.

Answer 5

HI
Why else would he give up his heavenly life as an angel in the presence of God? Jesus was God's first creation and in turn Jesus created everything else Colossians 10: 1 -20, since he created us with the help of Jehovah he was also made our salvation, Adam and Eve committed sin and gave up a perfect body and everlasting life, to balance the scales Jesus gave up his humanly life so that we could have ours back. Who is better fitted to sacrifice for our salvation other than who made us right? If there was no original sin then there would be no death and no sickness and Jesus would have stayed in the heavens with our father, Jehovah and we would be in good graces with our creator.
Lammy

Answer 6

I think you misunderstand original sin. Adam and Eve were immortal and the original sin was what caused them to become mortal. One of the things the atonement of Christ does is allow us to gain immortality again (after this life, the whole heaven thing). The second is allowing us to be forgiven for any sins we commit ourselves.

If Christ didn't die for our sins, then none of us have any chance of ever seeing heaven. This is okay if you don't believe in heaven and hell, but too depressing if you do.

As for the sour grapes comment in one of the other answers, you can't show that what parents do has absolutely no effect on their children. It isn't punishment from God, it is the natural consequence of the parent child relationship.

Answer 7

He did die for our sins, even if there is no original sin we still sin against God, we have broken God's Law, no matter who you are or how much you wish there was no Law, no sin, it still exist. I don't need to think about it I know the truth. Jesus Christ is the Son of God who came to clean us of our sins.

Answer 8

Even if there is no Original Sin, there is no one alive who is without sin, and accordingly all are in need of forgiveness and salvation.

Answer 9

How can you say there is no original sin when the Bible gives instances of original sin throughout. Are you calling God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit a liar when they all witness to the redemptive power of Christ. Shame on yoy.

Answer 10

Nice try but I think you will find that the belief in sin is cherished so much by the believer that they see any attempt to disprove it as the work of Satan.

In this respect the idea is self policing.

With all of the proof that Jesus never actually dies till he is in his 80s, it requires a lot of effort to hang on to the guilt trip about his dieing for our sins.

The real truth must be avoided at all cost.

Love and blessings Don

Answer 11

Actually, Jesus was put to death because he constantly upset some local power at be in a time and place where freedom of speech was not common. Like every death penalty , it was sad, savage but also quite common at that time.
The rest is just tales and legends, he did not die for any other reasons.