okay, so, "christians" what's your view on Lot's incestuous relationship with his daughters?

Question

since it's not mentioned in your book that it's a sin, does this mean that you don't see it as a sin, since your book didn't mention it to be so?

to the first answerer, obviously, as i had expected, you are too stupid to answer such a valid question.

should insulting be thrown, instead, for lacking brains to answer?

Answer 1

Lot was drunk on both occasions and the daughters are to blame. He had no knowledge.

Answer 2

I am not a Christian,butI believe you asked a valid question and deserve an answer.
Or at least an opinion. Rather than just being insulted
The Old Testament is more a book of geneology and rules for tribes living a semi nomadic life in very harsh conditions.
As nearly all people were iliterate. Stories with morals and Community laws were related to help people explain the evolving Judaic laws and formulate an way of domestic farming life.
Unfortunatley most of these stories have been translated totally out of context.Or else translated so many times that they have lost their original meaning or they have been interpreted inncorrectly because knowledge of the ancient texts was rare.
Quite often a scroll or parchment was found with significant pieces very effected by time or actually missing. Then it was left up to the person transcribing,to fill in the gaps as they thought they should be!.
Regarding Lot and his "daughters".
The word and meaning of daughter, had a very different meaning in those times. A daughter could be anyone with a relationship. Such as daughter inlaw,niece of varying degrees and relationship and other like meanings.
It was the same with the terms sister and brother.
It did not denote the same meaning as we have for the word today.
It was not unusual to take a close relative as a wife or husband. Remember these were rather small groups or tribes,really just extended families.
By todays standards this is wrong, and we find it quite difficult to except.
In those times it was more important to produce a new generation.Infant mortality was extremly high and life expectancy around 40 years.This has been shown from the examination of human remains dating from the time of Moses.
It is true the Bible severly contradicts itself repeatedly. In the first 16 pages there are enough sins by our standards to damm them all to Hell.
But it must also be remembered that it was not written in a particular time span.It covers nearly a thousand years of historical time.From the time of Abraham and then Moses through to Jesus and his crucifixtion.
Many of the contributers had only heard the tales "around the camp fire" and not been personally involved.
Perhaps,if scholars were allowed to access all the books that make up the complete Bible.Then,we would be able to understand its messages a lot clearer,especially why there are so many obvious contradictions.

After reading your profile I regret defending you. You are definatey what you were referred to and more.
Do you ever get sex of your mind?
Actually that is proberly the only place you get it!
It is a violation to place multiple questions.Give up little girl, while you are ahead.
I noticed one of your Q.s or A.s referred to; Why do girls get raped?
I think we know the answer!
Thanks for the points though.

Answer 3

Lil Rebbi.... He's not saying that Christians don't read the OLD, he's challenging her on WHO she's attacking. All of this turds questions are about bashing CHRISTIANS!!!

And Yes....She is a TURD!

Also, since you were so upset about what Frank J said, and had him deleted....well, here's a reminder.

Uhh....that's the OLD Testament....retard. Why not ask Christians why we follow Mohamed. If you're going to start a religious fight, you might want to actually know something about religion. You might want to know the difference between Christians, Jews, and Muslims. But I tend to forget that people like yourself are to ignorant to ever do a little research before putting your foot in your mouth. SexyLess M....Were you born this stupid or do you have to try? If you knew anything about the bible, you would know that Leviticus says that incest is a sin. But I guess you just want to cherry pick your quotes. That is what I expect from someone with the IQ of a frying pan. I also notice you didn't mention your religious belief. Why are you afraid to have your belief berated and vilified? Oh, how do I know you're a moron???? Looking at your wide VARIETY of questions, it's obvious that you are an empty little person with no life, no faith, and no love. You are truly a pathetic example of a person

Answer 4

I'm not one to pass judgment on anyone. Read in the Book of Acts of the New Testament. In Acts 17:30 we read; And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

In Romans 5:13-14 we read; (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not "imputed" (not held accountable for) when there is no law.

Nevertheless "death" reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

Lot was before Moses and the Law.

Answer 5

This is the first recorded instance of the excuse: "I was drunk... er... on both occasions, and I didn't know what I was doing."

I'm a male, and if anybody who thinks thay can be too drunk to realise they're having sex with their daughter (on two successive nights), but not drunk enough for the act to be impossible, they are a moron.

I'm very surprised that feminists and others who oppose incest and child sexual abuse haven't been all over this one.

The moral compass provided by the Old Testament is a very strange one indeed. Especially since the Lot story was specifically about the "one righteous man".

Answer 6

The daughters seduced him because they believed they were the only surviving females on Earth. They were trying to preserve the human race.

Gross, but understandable.

And, yes, incest is mentioned as a sin in Leviticus, a subsequent book of the Old Testament.

Answer 7

the actual incontrovertible truth that the Bible does not communicate about good then and there that the act change into sinful does not recommend the Bible does not search for suggestion from with incestuous acts as sin. do not ignore that the Bible is likewise a historic previous e book... and an independent historic previous e book will practice you the strong and the undesirable... the actual incontrovertible truth that it change right into a sin does not replace the actual incontrovertible truth that it occured. So like all strong refernce e book, it has to record it. in this incident, the daughters acted out of desperation... and (as yet another answerer noted) in that element period, it change into not uncommon for human beings to marry (or to that end have sexual relatives) with a relative... even if for lack of different concepts or merely because of a rebellious spirit, the justifications are irrelevant... it befell... different issues befell contained in the Bible that are acts we'd want to judge sinful... Cain killing is brother, David sound asleep with a married female... then (on suitable of that) installation her husband to be killed... even pastime getting annoyed with God... stuff takes position... and that i imagine the Bible might want to be kinda one-sided if it really painted a photo of all of us skipping fortunately by existence without sin transferring into the photo... assessment makes issues extra interesting, do not you imagine???

Answer 8

Well, this is before God gave the law prohibiting it. Remember Abraham & Lot were before the "law" was given (Moses). But, after the law was made known to us, it would classify as a sin now. Plus, incest is dumb, since you end up with messed up kids a lot of the time (now the genes are screwed up enough for that to happen. Not much of the case then.)

In the girls' defense (for it is they who commited it, not he (knowingly, that we can tell, as he was drunk enough to "not notice their comings and goings")), they probably believed they were they only ones left in the world, since Sodom and Gamorra had been wiped out.

**EDIT**

Also, Frank J, in case you haven't noticed, the Christian Bible includes both the Old Covenant and the Renewed Covenant (what you folks would call the Old and New Testaments, respectively). The Old Testament applies to Christians as well, not JUST Jews.

Answer 9

It was sin, and God punished Lot for it.The chapter in question,Genesis19, states that Lot's daughters had two children, Moab and Benammi who, were the ancestors of the Moabites and the Ammonites. Later in the Bible, the Israelites were ordered by God to destroy both of these tribes for their many sins. Both tribes were utterly slaughtered, not even leaving the children alive. Lot and his daughters paid for their sin by having their descendants totally eradicated form the face of the earth, the ultimate penalty for the sickest sin.

Answer 10

Lot's daughters got him drunk and then had intercourse with him,without his knowledge.Even if it turned out that he did have a constant relationship with them,it doesn't mean that God approves.

Incest is forbidden."No one is to approach any close relative to have sexual relations. I am the Lord...Everyone who does any of these detestable things -- such persons must be cut off from their people" (Leviticus 18:6, 29)

Answer 11

My view is high up, since when I read the bible, I'm usually looking downwardly.

Oh, you mean my opinion on the incest? Kind of like: "ew"
Or, well, I guess you are trying to infer that I'm a hippocrit of some sort because I read a racy book? Um...you are an idiot.