Or hate? Or how about the wind; what does the wind look like? What does gravity look like? Or static electricity? No, you have never seen them, only their effects, right? You only know as much about them as you have been told, but you do know they are real because you see and feel their effects on the world. How about that computer your using, where did it come from? Where did you come from; were you here 100 years ago? No, you were born, and that computer was made. We live in a univers where everything, in it's present form, at least, and according to basic laws of physics, has a beginning and an end. Well then where did the universe come from? A small ball of neutrons and photons and electrons, super condensed? Well where did that come from? Well maybe it has just always been? Well, that also violates scientific law, so either science is flawed, in which case, stop trying to use science to prove their is no God, or we have a creator.
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This, my friends, is logic in it's most basic form, however, I know the superor intellects of an atheist, who must over-think everything, cannot comprehend something so simple.
2007-01-03
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Ask yourself these questions and think what your response would be. A classic and grand trait of philosophers is this same strategy. They find the answers themselves. You seem to be well on your way. For instance: we can ask if there is a God or if science created everything. But do you really want to believe everything was created from an interstellar cloud of dust? No, the human body alone is too complex for dust to create. There must be a higher power. There, I've just proven God exsists to myself, though I already knew that...
Good luck. :D
2007-01-03 10:39:55
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answered by ladywood128 2
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The idea is while every conceptual thing has a beginning and an end, those are only distinctions in our mind, nothing is ever truly gone in this universe, and nothing is ever truly created, in short, those are the laws of thermodynamics. A beginning and an end really don't make all that much sense in the context of the universe, which can be seen as a chain of cause and effect. If every effect has a cause, or everything that has come into being was brought into being through something else, then a universe can't have a single starting point and a single creator that had no cause logically. The current thoughts on the universe within string theory happen to be that the membrane our universe inhabbits happened to have colided with another membrane carrying something else, this caused the big bang.
As for using science to prove there is no God, I don't think anyone attempts that, because logically there can be no experiment to prove it, and that is the very reason the belief is hatched. If something cannot in any conceivable way be shown to be true, then assuming it true wouldn't be logical by many people's definitions.
The other "invisible" phenominon that you describe on the other hand can objectively be shown to be true, wind can be measured to a great degree, felt, and have energy generated from it, hate can be picked up through electrical and chemical means as an interaction in the brain, as well as perceived through psychology with the black box model and the behavior of the person indicating its existance, as well as through hormones circulating through ojne's body. Static electricy creates visible sparks, makes neurons fire (generates pain), repels objects through induction, and can power certain devices, as well as measured via the presence of electrons, gravity can be interacted with, has constant effects on the world around us, can be fought against, and modifies the flow of time in a slight, but still detectible ways.
Any one of these phenomina I could recreate actively, and then demonstrate the properties of, this isn't about lack of visibility, it's lack of perception, I can't hold God in front of my face, I can't show that God will let man walk on water when certain circumstances are met, I can't demonstrate fire and brimstone raining down from the heavens, I can't measure chemical impulses in the brain of an abstract existance. God is nothing like the other subjects you mentioned, and it isn't logic to assume such a thing IS there, even if it wasn't logical to assume he wasn't there.
PS: No, it isn't illegal to date someone who works at home depot, but maybe it should be..
2007-01-03 18:50:50
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answered by yelxeH 5
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Love looks like a pretty little heart. HAte looks like a pair of flaming eyes. The wind looks like blue, black or green lines and swirls, depending on the background. I'm sorry, but plenty of people have created an image for abstract concepts. Wow, so original, you're pondering the origin of the universe. People have only done that for thirteen thousand years at least. Maybe the universe is the exception to the rule because it's so all-encompassing. What if the universe has always been? It's possible. You say that god has always been. Write a book if you're so inclined on spreading your ideas, then someone might care.
2007-01-03 18:43:34
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answered by Kevin S 3
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In overly simplistic terms, the universe either evolved from energy or a magical being. It is just as valid for the energy to have always been there as it is for your magic genie to have always been there.(if you intend to use that as an argument) Logic should dictate which scenario is more plausible You have put on full display a total ignorance of science. With your current level of knowledge, you are not worthy of meaningful debate. Get past the bogus "bible science' that has infected you and learn the real stuff. ps It isn't possible to prove the 'non existence' of god or anything else. Atheists are smart enough to know that. The image you have of yourself as intelligent and logical is laughable. Any of the Atheists on this site would have you for breakfast.
2007-01-03 18:58:53
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answered by Anonymous
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Love can be seen in the faces of admirers. Look at the pictures of The BeaTles fans all waiting to see the Fab 4 who many at the time had never seen before. Their expectations blossom in their faces. Just Like a man and a woman "expecting their first child"! If you place a match at the end of someones butt when they get ready to fart-it will light the gas-now that is what I call SEEING WIND-Gravity can be demonstrated and described and it is then VIEWED in motion-To say that the sense of sight is cause is wrong as one can HEAR music-Can you show me the thoughts between your ears? Only if you place them into motion-so now to compromise your position-You can tell me what you believe in and you can show me the Love of many of Gods believers-however you will have to admit that those believers have many different beliefs-God has failed to provide this world with a comfortable way of maintaining Love among his creation Mankind-instead we have been pitted against oneanother and ultimately discriminated by him, it or whatever-and this is a rather splendid ramnification of things created BY MAN-God did not create man-man created God!
2007-01-03 18:47:02
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answered by Anonymous
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Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous or boastful or proud or rude. Love does not demand its own way. Love is not irritable, and it keeps no record of wrongs. It is never glad about injustice but rejoices whenever the truth wins out. Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance.
This is what love looks like
2007-01-03 18:39:26
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answered by Anonymous
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All of these concepts are mental constructs that are defined proportionally to the perceptions of each individual, just like your idea of a "creator god" is. Basic logic is actually proposing an issue and refuting it or not. Using changeable mental concepts cannot prove that something YOU think is "unchangeable" exists and the tactic is about ILLOGICAL as it GETS. sheesh.
2007-01-03 18:38:18
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answered by vinslave 7
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Looks like Jesus..is called God
2007-01-03 18:37:04
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answered by Allen L 4
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What was your question? Love looks like the invisible man, drinking evaporated milk through a donut hole.
There does that help you, Flanky Foont?
2007-01-03 18:36:56
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answered by Anonymous
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i dont think i understand your point. love looks like an l before an o before a v before an e. ....
you cant see those, but you can measure them and feel their effects, gods you cannot measure nor see effects of. u can prove gravity, you can prove electricity, you can prove wind, you cannot prove god. those dont really have enough likeness for relation thefore your point is pointless.
2007-01-03 18:37:59
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answered by Anonymous
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