1. Does the bible teach that the holy spirit is a person?(luke1:41;Matt.3:11;Acts10:38)
2.Does the bible agree with those who teach that the Father and the Son are not seperate and distinct individuals?(Matt26:39)(john8:17,18)
3.Does the bible teach that none of those who are said to be included in the trinity is greater or less that another, that all are equal, that all are almighty?(john14:28;mark13:32;matt12:31,32;1cor.11:3)
2007-01-03 07:24:15 · 20 answers · asked by yahwhoer1987 2 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
You answered your own question, using very good Scripture to back up the truth that the Father and the Son are not to be worshipped as one, and the holy spirit is God's active force, not a person at all.
Revealtion 1; 172: " A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. And he sent forth his angel and presented [it] in signs through him to his slave John, 2 who bore witness to the word God gave and to the witness Jesus Christ gave, even to all the things he saw.
"A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him," (shows two distinct individuals...God gave Jesus. In verse 2 we see that John gave witness to the word God gave and the witness Jesus gave.
Two separate individuals.
1 Corinthians 15:24 & 25: "Next, the end, when he hands over the kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power. 25 For he must rule as king until [God] has put all enemies under his feet.
The above verse says " to his God and Father"
If Jesus was God, he wouold not have a God, he would be God.
Verses such as these would be written differently, but they are written this way because God and Jesus are not the same.
The thing is, they do both have a place in worship and we must recognize their respective places. Also, the holy spirit has a part in our worship as well. Without the holy spirit it would be impossible for us ever to learn the truth and gain accurate knowledge. We must recognize who or what each is in order for our worship to be acceptable to God.
John 4:23 & 24: " Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshipers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for, indeed, the Father is looking for suchlike ones to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit, and those worshiping him must worship with spirit and truth.”
2007-01-03 08:08:01 · answer #1 · answered by wannaknow 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
The answer to that is (1) YES, (2) NO, (3) NO!
The Bible teaches of a Father, Son, and Holy Spirit that existed in the beginning (Genesis 1-3). God's word in verse 3 is Jesus (John 1:1-14). The word for God in Genesis 1:1 is ‘elohiym pronounced el-o-heem’. It is plural.
It also teaches that Jesus is not equal to the Father (John 14:28) since He does not know everything that the Father knows (Mark 13:32), nor can He do anything except what He sees the Father do (John 5:9).
It teaches that the Holy Spirit is not equal to the Father since He can only say what He has been told to say (John 16:13).
They are seperate and individual, but under the authority of the Father.
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2007-01-03 07:53:23 · answer #2 · answered by Theophilus 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
First Peter 1:2 and Ephesians 1:17 speak of the Father as God; Hebrews 1:8 and John 1:1 speak of the Son as God; Acts 5:3-4 and 2 Corinthians 3:17-18 speak of the Spirit also as God. Matthew 28:19 speaks of the Father, the Son, and the Spirit together. God in the New Testament is the Father, the Son, and the Spirit—the Triune God.
There are some passages in the Bible that mention the Father, the Son, and the Spirit together. Second Corinthians 13:14 says, “The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.” First Corinthians 12:4-6 says, “...but the same Spirit...yet the same Lord...but the same God.” First Peter 1:2 says, “Chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father in the sanctification of the Spirit unto the obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ.”
-Ten Lines in the Bible - Witness Lee
2007-01-03 07:37:17 · answer #3 · answered by Jay Z 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Just about the only thing that the' bible' (New Testament) is well known for is the' fact' that the gospels according to Matthew , Mark, Luke' and John were not written by any of these people.
As for the 'Holy Trinity'! Out of all the ridiculous religions we have on earth, this must be the most unbelievable of the lot.
Your main point seems to be 'Does the bible' , teach, or agree with whatever? The bible, Old and New Testament can be translated to 'mean 'or 'agree' with whatever you are looking for, along the lines of Nostradamus's predictions!
So 'seek and you will find' (what you find may satisfy you, but maybe not me)!
Yes I can hear it now 'Oh ye of little faith' !!! etc etc etc.
2007-01-03 07:49:37 · answer #4 · answered by budding author 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Before those books were written down it was the belief of the faithful that Jesus was God. Because they (the writers) were Jewish, you can bet they didn't buy into some multiple God theory as proposed by certain religions. Do you challenge this? It is very important that you recognize this.
Also:
This adamant insistence on monotheism is taken directly from the teaching of the Bible. Thus, in John 17:3 Jesus addresses his Father, saying, "And this is eternal life, that they know you—the only true God."
2007-01-03 07:29:49 · answer #5 · answered by BigPappa 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
1. The holy spirit is God's active force used as a helper to his
followers.
2. No. They are not the same. Jehovah is the Almighty God
and Jesus is his son.
3. No. "The father is greater" .
The bible does not support the Trinity doctrine.
2007-01-03 07:33:20 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
I think snowbaal phrased it perfectly. The Trinity is a belief, a doctrine, believed by some and not believed by others. As for Biblical "proof," I think the Christian scriptures are vague enough to allow for many interpretations.
I personally agree with Thomas Jefferson, who considered the concept of the Trinity an "unintelligible proposition" and "mere Abracadabra."
2007-01-03 07:38:23 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I don't like to dispresepct other religions or people, but I can say the Bible can be interpreted many ways and that the "Trinity" was not an official doctrine of anyone until the Catholic Church decided it was back in 325 AD. Prior to that they were thought of as seperate beings. To each his own. As long as we are trusting in and following Christ we should be okay.
2007-01-03 07:38:45 · answer #8 · answered by straightup 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The trinity is the truth. The members, God the Father, God the Son Jesus Christ, and God the Holy Spirit function through three persons as one God simultaneously. When man was being created, God said "Let US make man in the image of God".
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2007-01-03 07:28:55 · answer #9 · answered by truthhandl3r 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Do you still beat your wife? Truth or lie?
When you place limitations on the answer to a question, you limit yourself to limited answers.
The "trinity" isn't a doctrine Jesus chose to elaborate on, why should we place so much emphasis on it.
What does it matter, anyway. I believe the Bible, and have never found it necessary to expound the "trinity" while counseling people in confusion or doubt.
Do you think you're pleasing God by arguing his nature?
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2007-01-03 07:32:29 · answer #10 · answered by s2scrm 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋