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According an orthodox jew i spoke to the messiah prophesy still hasn't been fulfilled, do you think thats that true

2007-01-03 05:33:34 · 7 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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I am an ultra orthodox Jew and this is what we believe: It is a big "mitzva" to live in israel as it is a holy place and very dear to us. But there are 2 problems with zionism.

1) G-d sent us into exile and we have no right to make a Jewish state on our own without permision - in other words until the messiah comes and the third and ultimate temple is built. (although now that there is a Jewish state of Israel our Rabbis tell us to support it because every Jew is responsible for each other and it is up to us to stop the suffering and killing that the muslims are inflicting on the Jews.

2) These days it is not such a big problem as Israel is not totally Zionistic as it was in it's early days. The problem with Zionism is that it goes against the Torah. All zionist Jews are not religious and it it very sad. Zionism was set up that everyone is equel even parent and children. There was no respect for elders, or Rabbis or anything like that. That is not the way the torah tells the Jews to live. So the answer to your question is that yes, Zionist is against Judaism.

You should know that not all Jews living in israel are Zionist. In fact most religious jews are not , and they do not like or believe in the government, though they would have that anytime over arab rule.

Your second question - obviously we do not believe that the messiah came as none of the prophesies came true.

2007-01-06 17:05:02 · answer #1 · answered by ~Daisy~ 1 · 0 0

The Messiah prophecies have all been fulfilled. The problem now is to relax the clergys grip on their congregations and the followers grip on the abundant religious myths so that people can use their minds if they desire to investigate the truth for themselves. Zionism isn't against Judaism except in its predominant form as it exists in the upper reaches of power in Israel today. True Zionism is the belief in the establishment of the Kingdom of God on earth with the Davidic King at its head bringing Justice and Peace to earth. The Israeli government zionism is unlikely to produce justice or peace anytime soon.

2007-01-03 13:43:32 · answer #2 · answered by regmor12 3 · 0 0

This person spoke for a small monority of Jews. Most Jews are zionists or believe in some way in the zionist cause. Return to the land of israel is a basic part of our religion.

2007-01-03 17:14:30 · answer #3 · answered by MaryBridget G 4 · 0 0

No. The Jews just don't know that Jesus was the son of God. They're mostly just mad because they are the ones who killed him. Of course I guess it was the Roman Empire that killed him but the Jews wanted him dead too. In any case, the Messianic Jews are the only ones with their heads on straight.

2007-01-03 13:36:17 · answer #4 · answered by Michael 2 · 2 2

i dont know about that one but keep in mind judaism denounces zionism. How close minded.

2007-01-03 13:37:01 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

1) No

2) No

2007-01-03 13:35:32 · answer #6 · answered by Suzanne: YPA 7 · 0 0

Jesus was only a dirty hobbit. He didn't really matter...you and I are still going to hell.

2007-01-03 13:36:01 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 5

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