A few questions about the bible?

Question

1-Nahum 3:5-6 Is it appropriate to put such words and descriptions in a "holy" book?
2- And is this appropriate too? Ezekiel 23:20-22
3- Exodus 6:20 compared to Due 27:22, Is incest ok or not?
4-Exodus 35:2 & 21:7-8 Why? I don't care if it doesn't apply anymore, it's SO cruel and obviously doesn't have different 'interpretations'!!
5- Kill animals horribly which 'gores' you? Exodus 21:28-29 Agian I don't care if it doesn't apply anymore, that's so violent

Answer 1

the bible is full of hipocrisy the things you've found aren't suprising some of them are age old questions but if you read the bible through you'll find incest, rape, murder, prostitutes, and just general corruption and this is from a book that is supposed to be holy if you want examples message me and i'd be happy to show you some my parents tried to raise me into christianity and so most of these things are familiar to me

Answer 2

1-Nahum 3:5-6
->to understand why God does not like thes people read the first part of the chaptor.

2- And is this appropriate too? Ezekiel 23:20-22
->once again read the first part.

3- Exodus 6:20 compared to Due 27:22, Is incest ok or not?
->note that the law against incest was put into play about 80 years after the insedent occored. u can not brake a law that does not exist!

4-Exodus 35:2
->at no point in time did God say this does not aply. the judgment was softened but the law was never over turned!

& 21:7-8 Why? I don't care if it doesn't apply anymore, it's SO cruel and obviously doesn't have different 'interpretations'!!
-> islum still have "slave trade" it may aply to them... the law is made to protect people who try to keep it and punish those that brake it.

5- Kill animals horribly which 'gores' you? Exodus 21:28-29 Agian I don't care if it doesn't apply anymore, that's so violent
-> it says that if an animal kills some one it is to be killed. is it not justice?


your problem is thet your "femenant" side gets the best of you...and you start to tink with your felings insted of action-reaction. God bless you an keep reading!

Answer 3

Here are a few answers.

First, about your sensitivity to the graphic words in a "holy" book: It is entirely appropriate. God is dealing with people who have a passion for doing the wrong thing. Often, the pagan religious practices that the Israelites adopted from the Canaanites were of a sexual nature. God doesn't beat around the bush, and tells it like it is. Plus, in the Nahum account, the description is what actually occurs when a conquering nation takes prisoners. Those who are captured are stripped naked and humiliated. Israel had seen this before. For them, it was a real part of life.

The same is true for the Exodus 23 account. Most Israelites were farmers. They had all seen this. And the adultery that God is describing shows the depravity that Israel had descended into. If you are trying to get someone's attention, a shock is often justified - especially when the listener isn't listening.

Prior to the Law of Moses, incest (to a degree) occurred. The bloodlines were purer back then, but by the time the Law was given, God didn't want to allow Israel to become further polluted, which is why He prohibited it. The pagan nations around Israel continued to practice it for centuries after the Law of Moses was given. Your sensitivity about incest is a result of the influence of biblical thought, not pagan or atheistic thought. Needless to say, incest is prohibited.

As to working on the Sabbath and being put to death for it, you must understand. God does something radical at the beginning of a new thing to get people's attention. He said don't do this, or else. When someone pushes the envelope, the justice must be meted out, or it's only talk. If a punishment for a crime isn't given, then those who commit the offense will be emboldened. You also must realize that the Sabbath was to give everyone rest once a week. Prior to this, Israel worked a seven-day week. They didn't get days off. They had been slaves. The Sabbath was a gift to them, not a punishment. But God was also serious about it. They were to rest.

As to the death of a goring animal, what would you rather have happen? An animal that is uncontrollable, or steak for dinner? Even today, shepherds and ranchers will slaughter those in their herds or flocks that don't cooperate. Why should it be any different back then?

Answer 4

1. Nahum 3:5-6
Jonah had prophesied to Nineveh that unless they repented,
they would be overthrown. They repented and God spared them at Job 3:10. They then again turned to badness and Nahum prophesied that they would be doomed. The verses you refer to is showing how all the nations around would know of her demise.

2. Ezekiel 23:20-22
This is basically the same situation. The cities were full of badness. There was nothing spiritual about them, but they lived for the flesh. Acting as prostitutes by worshiping idols, even sacrificing their children. This shows how bad and disgusting their idolatry and fornication was to God.

3. Exodus 6:20 / Duet 27:22
It says that Am'ram took Jochebed his father's sister as his wife.
That would be his aunt. Deut 27:22 is talking about "anyone who lies down with is sister." which is not the same thing.
The laws did get stricker on marrying relatives, which is why the Deut. is full of restrictions.

4. Exodus 35:2 & 21:7-8
Exodus 35:2 shows the importance of setting aside time for worship. God asked that they set the sabbath day aside to read in the law and to reflect about him and what he had done for them. He wasn't asking much of them. Just one day. But it was very important. We are no longer under the sabbath, although, it is still important to take time to worship and meditate on God's laws.

Exodus 21:7-8
This was a different time. Slavery was common, but in a lot of ways, a slave was like an employee and the master was the employer. In this case, it is speaking of a concubine, which was treated as a wife. verse 10 speaks about her marriage due. I'd have to look up more info on this, but I do think it was written as a protection for her.

5. Exodus 21:28-29
An animal that kills a human, is put to death today. They didn't have gas to put them to sleep or guns to shot them. A owner who keeps a violent animal would be held responsible for the death of another human. That is true today, they may not get the death penalty today, but they will have to serve time. It showed the importance of human life and the respect for it.

Answer 5

1. Yes. The words used are a metaphor of judgement and destruction against a city. Life itself is sometimes ugly. Being "holy" doesn't whitewash the ugliness of life. That isn't holiness, that is denial.

2. Again, this is a metaphor. The city is compared to an adulterous woman, who became a discraceful whore, and then ripped off all of her customers. Since when is prostitution and fraud a "pretty" subject? Since "Pretty Woman" came out? The judgement the city is about to recieve is compared to the ugliness such a woman would recieve from her many "johns" or "pimps".

Would you have holiness live in denial of such crap? Pretend it didn't exist? Never talk about it? Or, more likely, never "judge" anybody at all, always be "nice", always "pretty".

The judgement our sins deserves is never pretty.

3. Once the law was given, it was not ok. There was no such prohibition against marrying (etc.) close relatives less than 2,000 years after Creation. God's law wasn't revealed until about 1,200 BC, several thousand years later. No Ex Post Facto, remember?

4. I think you may have provided the wrong references here. What does the insititution of a Sabbath's days rest have to do with regulations regarding Isrealite indentured servants? And why do you have a problem with it?

5. "Gore" does not mean "disgust" here, it means "thrust through with its horns to do bodily damage or cause death". This is a regulation concerning animals that kill. Would you have a man-killing bull put into talk therapy? DUH!! The animal is either sick or simply unsafe, so it has to be put down. In case it is sick, it should NOT be eaten. Since it can't be approached to be slaughtered in the "normal" fashion--it will kill another person--it has to be stoned to death. There were no guns back in the day, you know!

If I was a farmer, and one of my animals killed my neighbor, that animal would be dead before sunrise. I would also have it tested for rabies, etc. and not eaten.

Any more questions?

Answer 6

This is where insight comes into play.

I don't think anyone answered regarding the concubines. Concubines were in existence pre-law covenant, however it was recognized and regulated by the law covenant; which protected the rights of both woman and concubines. So the nation if Israel was indeed protected from mistreatment. Among those were: Sarah, Leah, and Rachel, And their offspring were legitimate and could inherit like any other offspring.

I have noticed that people that attack the bible, a few posters above me, have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. You need to know the back drop of the situation, before you can appreciate text.

Answer 7

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Answer 8

All praise is due to Allah and peace and blessings be upon the beloved Prophet Muhammad. Ezekiel 23 is pure disgust. How can this be in a book of Allah? Would you read this to your 5 year old daughter before she goes to sleep at night? Some countries like South Africa had that part taken out because of the highly immoral content. I don't know if they have put back in though. Because you know, the Christians are always putting things in and taking things out when it suits them, but we will leave this problem for them to solve. Allah knows best.

Answer 9

1) God is telling us that He knows our sins, even our secret ones, and if we do not repent of them He will let everyone know of our evil (at least on the day of judgment).

2) If we do not turn from our evil God will turn our so called friends against us as a warning in this life to repent before it is to late.

3) You will note, that Exodus comes before Deuteronomy. God gave a new command NOT to have any more incest.

4) Spiritual death (which could become real at the Judgment).

5) We put dogs (and other animals) to death today, why not then?

Answer 10

Your view and understanding of God is flawed, and influenced by what you deem as correct and appropriate. This leads you to a twisted view of God. The issue here is not that God is wrong or innappropriate, but you are.
You and I are created by God, and have been purchased back to Him with the blood of His Son. The penalty for sin is blood -- always has been. Since Christ, however, His death was sufficient for us all -- Read Hebrews. Before Christ, the sins of man were passed to animals and set free -- where we get the scapegoat phrase. Another was sacrifices for the atonement of sins.

These rules are not for us to question any more than a pot has the right to question the potter. You cannot dismiss God, either. Consider what God said in Deut. 32:39: "See now that I, I am He, and there is no god besides Me; It is I that put to death and give life. I have wounded and it is I who heal, and there is no one who can deliver from My hand."

God has also destroyed the wicked through flood, and fire from heaven (Sodom and Gomorrah). God allowed Job to be wounded. God gave you breath. It's important to get a handle on who your Maker is. He also said (paraphrase) that if you love this world, you hate the Lord. However, if you deny yourself and pick up your cross and follow Jesus, you will have eternal life.

Answer 11

1. The Bible is a book of historical truth. It bears it all out. Warts and all. This goes to show that the Bible didn't undergo this secret alteration that removed all the "hideous" things in order to control the masses.

2. Absolutely. The Bible records everything that the people did. He doesn't cover up anything.

3. God tolerated it in the beginning. He put a stop to it as humanity populated.

4. God takes obedience seriously.

5. You have a problem with killing an animal that harms you or your loved one? I have no doubt in my mind that if you have a 5 yr old who is attacked by a rabid dog...you'd be the first one out the door with a sawed-off shotgun.

Instead of dismissing the Bible based on emotional outbursts, why not deal with it exegetically?