No and I would not be ashamed if we lost Iraq this afternoon.
Just ashamed that we started both wars.
The French had tried it in Vietnam so why did we have to try it too?
2007-01-03 03:32:20
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answer #1
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answered by antiekmama 6
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"lost" look Nixon decided with Kissenger and Congress in 1969 to "Vietnamese" the military effort, simple.
The South was never that capable, and besides most knew they were doomed by 1972.
After almost 60,000 US losses how can anyone suggest that we should have "done more"? What would have supplies and $ done for the ARVN's?
Look folks there are some people that cannot be taught the value of freedom and democracy. The Vietnamese have never experience any real democracy, who know if they will evolve.
Be certain there were many, many brave Vietnamese but trust me they were war weary and well so were we.
Whatever; spend another few US thousand soldiers in 1975 for Vietnam? Deju Vu all over again?
If we quit in Iraq, do we get a few hundred thousand refugees?
Look Ford was a great American.
2007-01-03 12:42:34
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answered by cruisingyeti 5
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I wish I could answer this question more simply, but here goes. President Ford did not lose Vietnam in 1975. The U.S. Congress withdrew funding for the U.S. Armed forces deployed in Vietnam and also refused continued funding for programs reinforcing the army of the Republic of Vietnam in 1975. While it is open to debate whether any of this funding would have kept South Vietnam functioning indefinitely, President Ford would only have been voted down by this same Congress if he had resubmitted his requests for these funds. Without the money, President Ford could not legally have committed other federal funding - or monies from any source - for these purposes (please see the Iran Contra scandal for a case where a later President's buddies tried to do just that and got caught). So President Ford did not lose Vietnam in 1975. But - filled with respect for the true intent of your question - I am ashamed that the U.S. (Congress) lost it in 1975.
2007-01-03 11:58:56
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answered by ETWeeden 1
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Ford didn't lose Vietnam. Johnson and Nixon had a whole lot more to do with the conduct of that war.
And I will never be ashamed of President Ford. I wonder how old you are and if you were around during that period. 58,000 troops killed. And now, Vietnam has most favored nation trading status.
It was unwinnable. Unless we would have paved the entire country, the corruption of the South Vietnamese government and the ferocity of the NVA would have made victory very expensive. And you look back now and say, "Why?"
I just hope Iraq doesn't leave us saying that again.
2007-01-03 11:34:20
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answered by iwasnotanazipolka 7
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By putting an end to a war that was far from being won, President Ford SAVED countless lives. Anyone that is old enough to have served in Nam, had friends and relatives die in Nam (as I did) KNOWS what this is all about... the same as now... the super-rich and powerful paying to keep their children from the front while the lower classes died in an unpopular war that only enriched American companies... like Prick Cheney's cronies and Dubya's cronies who are profiteering at the expense of the war.
The issue at hand was to stop the senseless dying of our American men and women in the front for a war that was NOT going to be won by any means; to hell with the b/s "honor" propaganda (perpetrated by the super-rich and powerful companies that made billions of dollars with the war efforts). The same ones that are today instigating more spending on the war so they can charge $45 for a 6-pack of Pepsi... and other ridiculous charges that no one seems to scrutinize or question but continues to pay out to these ghouls! President Ford had enough balls to put a stop to the war which killed and maimed (physically, mentally and emotionally) so many Americans... damned, it is so infuriating how many lives have been lost and shattered while these super rich and powerful make money, and continue to make money even now!
2007-01-03 15:07:23
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answered by Anonymous
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President Ford faced perhaps the most difficult decision of his presidency in trying to figure out just how to ask for enough funds to "pullout" the nearly 5000 Americans which remained in Saigon without triggering the North that we were indeed making the final pullout (which could have made the pullout disastrous). His action took courage and precise timing - and was ultimately successful. That being said, it was President Nixon who really "ended" our activity in Vietnam - Ford was left holding what Nixon left him. Ford's actions were admirable.
2007-01-03 12:17:35
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answered by CathApol 3
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IThe conflict in vietnam began with the French. Because we were alies with France we were obligated to help them. the french convinced Eisenhower to run for president of the US which he did and won. Thats why we got involved in vietnam, to help the french.(doesn't that sound familiar)? Kennedy said we have no business in vietnam and began the process to pull our troops out.BANG BANG Johnson came in and started sending more and more troops to vietnam. By the end of his first full term in office, Johnson was told that things in vietnam looked bad, and it would make him look bad if we lost. He was told not to run for a second full term which he didn't. Now they have another election,They need a fall guy, Ford is friends with everybody, Nixon is not. We'll elect Nixon, let him take the blame for this mess and we'll get rid of him, then Ford will take over he will do whatever we say. BUT Nixon was one step ahead of them, He started pulling the troops out and someone didn't want that because if he is successful,he's going to win a second term, thats where watergate comes in, make him quit, or impeachment. No one won or lost. I'm ashamed that a man of his nature would stoop soo low to go along with a scheme to embarass a fellow politician(Nixon) for money and fame. I have more respect for Nixon than I do for Ford.
2007-01-03 13:25:08
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answered by Anonymous
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The Democrat Congress lost that War.They cut the funds and left the South Vietnamese at the Norths mercy.They got none.By the way, the North was financed by the Russians.
2007-01-03 12:08:24
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answered by Dr. NG 7
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How could I feel any shame? Do you feel ashamed?
The way the U.S. forces got involved (the Gulf of Tonkin ruse) in a deeper way should make you feel ashamed. The use of Agent Orange and other defoliants that harmed Americans as well as Vietnamese generations to come should make you feel ashamed. The whole flawed 'Domino Theory' that cost so many Vietnamese and American lives - now that should make you feel ashamed!
2007-01-03 11:50:11
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answered by WMD 7
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How did Ford lose the war? The major policy decisions had been made years before he came into office in August, 1974. What was he supposed to do, start sending hundreds of thousands of GIs back in?
In fact, if anything, Ford was respecting the will of the American people by pulling our troops out of that cesspool. That's called "leadership".
Too bad our current fearless leader never cracked a history book, or any book for that matter (that didn't have six colored panels per page and dialogue balloons.)
2007-01-03 11:32:44
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answered by normanbormann 4
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The US won every single engagement with the enemy in that war. Although we lost alot of men, we SLAUGHTERED the communist army. They were on the verge of surrender when none other than John Kerry (in an act that is supposed to be punishable by death during time of war), approached the vietnamese communists in a completely illegal manner, met with them and convinced them to not surrender. He told them that he and the rest of the sick liberal movement in the US were very close to convincing the US Congress to leave. The communists listened to him, did not surrender and the rest is history.
To tell you the truth, I am ashamed of went on in Vietnam. It showed that a great many people in this country are traitors and that we don't have the will to punish them for it. Every society through human history has done the same thing with traitors.....either execute them or banish them. Up until World War II, the US was no exception. Vietnam shows the horrible consequences of failing in this duty.
Had we had the stomach to execute a handful of high profile traitors like John Kerry and Jane Fonda, the genocide the vietnamese communists engaged in after we left (millions of innocent people were killed by those scum) would not have happened.
2007-01-03 11:39:25
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answered by Anonymous
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