I often hear people say "I'm fine with immigrants if they'd just come here legally and pay taxes" When I ask..

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Let me start off by saying I'm not expressing an opinion on immigration.........
I often hear people say "I'm fine with immigrants if they'd just come here legally and pay taxes". In reply I always ask "How do you come to the United States legally and pay taxes?" and I have yet to have anyone really know the answer to that question. They just say something vague like "Well you have get papers." Does anyone know?

Curt - I'm not making any suggestions, I'm just asking a question.

Kysteel - I didn't say Americans should know. I didn't say Americans should care. I did not express any opinion. I just asked a question. If you don't have a answer to a question, you should not post.

Benji - Wow, you are as well written as you are cynical ! Thanks for taking the time to wrrite all that out. Reading it over again perhaps it could be taken as a troll, but you are giving me alot more credit for thinking this out than I deserve. I really don't have any hatefullness or hidden agenda. I'm not whining about anything. I'm a pretty simple straightforward gal. I ask a question just to get an answer. If I have a strong opinion , I'll let you know.

Dark - That most regular folks walking the street aren't going to know because most were born here is a great point. I just mentioned hearing people say that because it had just happened a few minutes before I wrote the question, so that's why I put it that way. Sorry if putting it the way I did confused the question.

Answer 1

the traditional way would be to become a citizen: http://www.uscitizenship.info/?ad=adword&keyword=immigration

if you don't want to, can't, don't have the 8 years it takes (estimate).. there are always working visas: http://www.unitedstatesvisas.gov/

or the new "guest worker program" which i don't really know much about, proceed with caution: http://www.doleta.gov/business/gw/guestwkr/

good luck and welcome.

Answer 2

What Curt detected in your tone is that you are not asking an innocent question or hiding your opinion. You start out by belitting other people's opinion in advance and then you get defensive when someone notices it. There is nothing more nasty than telling us you ask average people a legal question in follow up to their opinion and "have yet to have anyone really know the answer." If you were legitimate you would look it up. It's not as if the documents are in English and you don't speak English. But again you throwing the question out to the general population to prove some point of your own with the stated objective of "having people know the answer."

Americans do not have to be immigration lawyers in order to express a valid opinion on the subject. We all know for a fact that we or our ancestors came here legally and continue to do so every day. I would guess that it is hard to do so. There is an excellent reason for that. Not everyone can come through a door at the same time like the The Three Stooges, and the entire Earth should not be depopulated to the point where everyone will want to go live in those empty countries. And contrary to the opinion of most people who have "questions" like yours, no one is entitled to play their get rich quick schemes on the backs of Americans. So if it takes time and it is hard to do, stop whining.

Answer 3

The information is available on line and from any American embassy.The process is long involved and I think costly.But the rewards are 10 fold for doing things the legal way.Americans don't all live in the dark but we don't often go to other nations as immigrants so that information isn't a necessity to have on hand
for the average American.

Illegal aliens don't all pay taxes except for sales tax on goods and services.Here in Arizona as in a lot of border states they are paid daily and in cash.No taxes are taken out of cash payments.Some use a TIN # and pay some taxes,since they are here illegally to start with they are limited as to what if anything they get back.Most work under stolen,forged,borrowed,rented and shared social security cards.They get nothing back and deserve nothing back.In no way do the illegal aliens pay more than they cost this nation.I can post facts all day long from verifiable links that prove they don't.

http://usembassy.state.gov/

http://immigration.about.com/od/movetousgetestablished/a/visliveus.htm

Answer 4

There are a number of ways to come legally. Student visa, tourist visa (and leave when the time is over), get a sponsor and a job and apply for a work visa, green card lottery, marriage (not fraudulent), investment of a certain amount of money, etc. It is described on the immigration service web page.

The point is, there are limits on immigration, and the categories of immigration let you in easier if you have things we need, like technical skills or money to invest, because our laws are designed to protect our schools and services. Still, we let in a million a year legally. People who come above that are saying we don't have a right to say how many people's education we pay for and protect our own children's education. Even if illegal immigrants were rich enough to pay the $10,000 per child per year education costs, schools aren't built and teachers aren't trained overnight. There are limits on how many we can take without ruining things for our own people.

Answer 5

I have always thought of term 'legally' and pay taxes as meaning: a person must legally enter the country--with a passport or visa, obtain a green card (in order to work)..and pay taxes, just as everyone else who is a US citizen or has a green card and works. Lately, there has been the issue of illegal immigrants (individuals without passport & green cards) who have come into this country and have taken advantage of welfare benefits. The people who are working legally and who are paying taxes are paying for those benefits. There are other issues too, but I'm not going to expand on it here.

How do you obtain a passport? A person obtains them in their own original country...how they obtain them is different in many countries, but it is usually done through their governments. Embassies are good places to start.

How do you obtain a green card in this country or work to gain citizenship? Here are two different places.
http://www.usagc.org/index2.aspx?afk=gglsrenggc14eng&source=google&keyword=Get_a_green_card&gclid=COTkqunCxIkCFQkSgQodoEeqMg

http://www.greencardexperts.org/?c=7&s=4&kw=132

Answer 6

The person should immigrate according to the laws of the nation into which they are migrating. To do otherwise is against the law. Those who do not follow the correct procedure show their contempt for the laws of the country into which the are migrating. Their very first act in the new country is a violation of that countrys laws. Not the model candidate for citizenship, I would suppose.

Answer 7

Not sure I'm grasping the point of your question.

Most regular folks walking the street aren't going to know because most were born here. Try calling I.C.E. or searching government websites for immigration.

Answer 8

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Answer 9

People that answer your question like that are the ones that have not looked into it and don't want to appear to be uninformed.
How they proceed to get papers isn't that hard to do look at all the answers you've gotten so not that difficult if one wants to come to this Country Legally

Answer 10

And why, exactly, should an American need to know this? Why should we care?

The thing some Americans need to know & care about is the effect of the illegals on our country...they don't come to work this is media hype....

What every American needs to do is contact congress repeatedly to demand our immigration laws be enforced...the illegal aliens are overtaking our countries social services designed for Americans...their demonstrations showed most illegals do not want/care what is best for the USA...they just want their "perceived" rights - which translates to an anchor baby every 9 months (a large portion which are born to children age 13) and their welfare!
Attrition thru Enforcement
Repeal the 14th Amendment

Click on either of these two sites for the truth....

Answer 11

You come legally by applying and waiting for approval before you move here. You get a spouse visa, or employment visa, etc. Visit the USCIS website.