Is it coincidence that this argument, being used today against Gay marriage, was used against women's suffrage

Question

"Feminism threatened the most personal relationships in people's lives. Feminists asked men and women to think of themselves in new ways and to relate differently to each other.
If wives, mothers, daughters changed, husbands, fathers, and sons would be called upon to change as well. Home and family would be altered."
Hymowitz
I guess when it comes to basic human rights people haven't changed all that much.

Aztec: When it comes to essential liberties, I draw no lines.

Answer 1

And a lot of the arguments against gay marriage were used against interracial marriage

Answer 2

First of all, you are wrong in assuming marriage is an essential liberty, it is not. It is not an essential, or fundamental right protected under the constitution.

Second, my intelligent people, the same argument isn't being used. It has nothing to do with the way gay or straight people look at each other, and it is not discriminatory. State sanctioned marriage is just that, something created by the state. All people can get married spiritually (or by whatever other means they choose). The states, when creating a law, like marriage, must only have a rational reason for doing so (the law must be rationally related to the desired result). Additionally, the states must not provide factual or statistical evidence in support of these laws, as long as they appear rationally related. When they decide to sanction or provide benefit for marriage between a man and a woman they are doing so because they believe this is the best way to continue their society and provide the best structure for children. It is true that divorce is high, and that gay people can raise wonderful children (I have friends that have done so), but it is also rational for the states to think that it would be beneficial for a child to be raised under the influence of both a male and a female (as they are very different and can provide different influences). Addtionally, it is rational for a state to want their population to grow or remain in existence, and only men and women can continue this naturally.

Lastly, I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing to make gay marriage legal; it wouldn't bother me a bit and would actually make me happy, but, I do believe it should be left to the people and their elected state officials to determine such matters. Courts should not be legislating and Big Brother (the Federal Government) shouldn't be over stepping into areas the Constitution has not provided the right.

In the end, all people should be treated equal, but we also need to get away from always feeling victimized, which will only hold people down.

Answer 3

It was true then and it's true now. When women decided they wanted it all, the family unit suffered. Some women have just spread themselves too thin and everything suffers. They still end up doing most of the housework after they get home from their jobs. More divorces have happened. More children are unsupervised and getting into trouble. Kids are coming home from school to an empty house. More and more children are being raised by daycare centers instead of their own loving parent. It has hurt society.

May God Bless you.

Answer 4

I think that these arguments are simply an attempt to try to manipulate the majority by playing on their fears. What puzzles me is 'why'... Neither treating women with equality, nor same-sex marriage is harmful or negative or harmful to anyone - yet the extremist religious groups that oppose these things justify their purposeless hostility as being "defense". It seems odd - why should injustice or ignorance be an idea that anyone would defend? I can find no reason unless it is that by doing so they would preserve an inequality which is to their advantage. It is hard to imagine how "love your neighbor as you love yourself." can be twisted by these false justifications into having these conditions added after the fact;
-except if it requires me to change,
-except if it means I must give up an unfair advantage,
-except if I cannot think of myself as better than my neighbor.
Curious that if that was what the doctrine was supposed to read it never said anything like that...

Answer 5

theres a reason famous sayings stay alive for so long, cuz they apply no matter what time period...

"The more things change, the more they stay the same"

A lot of people like to believe that there have been advances in humanity over the past few decades, what with the spread of democracy, the extent of foreign aid, and equality amongst all races, genders, etc...but its really not that far ahead of what we've always been at all along. beneath the veil of accomplishment, human nature stays the same...no matter what

Answer 6

there is nothing wrong with fair treatment,.. the bible supports justice and fairness.

there is a postiive and negative side of feminism...you have mentioned the positive, ..but the negative side is this.... the arrogance, the hatred, the rebellious attitude, the disrepsect for the things of god, abortion....giving themselves freedoms that they are not entitled to according to scripture.... god given human rights do not include murdering young babies so you can get a job or finish school, or you can wait until you find the right boyfriend...

feminisam has made it self god, with the power to take away human life

homosexuality is a spiritual problem called sin...it has to be dealt with like other sins....but gays want to change the bible and make decisions for god that they are not in sin....all they have to do is repent, like everyone else...

Answer 7

No, here is the hypocrisy of your argument. We cannot allow all behavior to take place. Somewhere a line must be drawn.

But since you are attacking the line others have drawn, you say its wrong to draw a line. Of course if that line is erased (gay marriage is allowed) then a new line still has to be drawn, completing defeating your argument.

-Aztec276

Answer 8

Women being given the right to vote began the downfall of the American society.

Answer 9

The problem with feminism was not sin but arrogance. Women are not men...god made them different for a reason. That being said women are intelligent capable and wonderful but different from men...feminism was trying to equate women to men which is pointless. If God wanted them like men he would have made them that way. Homosexuality is simply perversion and sin...the two are not related.

Answer 10

Nope.
Marriage is two become one flesh.
Feminists won rights and respect that where already there, except for a few knobheads in the world.
Grandmothers, wives, mothers, and daughters always were and always will be an integral part of our society.
But evil will not be tolerated to promote destruction of family and our society.
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