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when jesus taught Us to pray he said THY will be done earth as it is in Heaven. THY KINGDOM COME.
is there a distinction between the two proclamations? yes.
what are they.

2007-01-03 00:30:47 · 13 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Read the whole chapter dude. You can't take one verse outside of its context to make it appear contradictory.

Basically, Paul is saying we cannot inherit the kingdom in our current state, that is, mortal. We must be transformed...

1 Corinthians 15:45-57

45 So also it is written, "The first MAN, Adam, BECAME A LIVING SOUL." The last Adam became a life-giving spirit. 46 However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural; then the spiritual. 47 The first man is from the earth, earthy; the second man is from heaven. 48 As is the earthy, so also are those who are earthy; and as is the heavenly, so also are those who are heavenly. 49 Just as we have borne the image of the earthy, we will also bear the image of the heavenly. 50 Now I say this, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.

51 Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53 For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 But when this perishable will have put on the imperishable, and this mortal will have put on immortality, then will come about the saying that is written, "DEATH IS SWALLOWED UP in victory. 55 "O DEATH, WHERE IS YOUR VICTORY? O DEATH, WHERE IS YOUR STING?" 56 The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law; 57 but thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

2007-01-03 00:41:05 · answer #1 · answered by Emperor Insania Says Bye! 5 · 1 0

The prayer says "Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done as in heaven also upon on the earth." When praying for God's Kingdom to come, we are not asking to go to that Kingdom but that we want his Kingdom or Government to govern over us here on the earth, to replace the now existing governments. By doing so his will would be done as in Heaven also upon the earth. We need that Kingdom. Keep praying for it to come. We, the flesh and blood who put our faith in God's ability to govern mankind will live forever upon the cleansed earth just as God originally intended before the first humans decided they could make better decisions apart from God's rules. Without people on the earth, reaching up to take an apple from a tree or caressing a newborn baby, what would man be? We were made flesh and blood, angels were made in spirit form. Let Heaven have it's angels, and let the beautiful earth have it's people. If you'd like to know more about what the Bible says regarding the Paradise, just speak with one of Jehovah's Witnesses the next time you come in contact with them. And please, pay no attention to the naysayers who will undoubtedly give this response a "thumbs down" they are just misguided and uninformed.

2007-01-03 01:01:57 · answer #2 · answered by professor grey 2 · 2 0

NEW HEAVENS AND NEW EARTH

Job19:25 For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth: 26 And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:
John the Baptist is same Luke 7:28; John 17:1-16 [ heavenly ask for ];
Thousands are for the new heavens 2Pet.3:13; that Jesus went to prepare John 14:3; and they are of the John 6:44[ at last day ]; 1Thes.4:15-17 at end ]; first resurrection Rev.20:1-6,12,13; 1Cor.15:22-28,51-53; Mark 13:27; Heb.12:22-24; John 3:5,6; 1Pet.1:15,16,23-25; 1Pet.2:5-9; of Luke 20:34-36; that are with him at his second coming as heavenly over earthly Rev.3:12; to resurrect the earthly for the new earth.
Heb.9:27; Acts 2:27-31 [ David ]; 17:31; 24:15; John 5:20,22,26-29; 12:2; Isa.26:19; Rom.14:9-12; Philip.2:5,9-12;
Isa.45:18; 65:17; 66:1,22,23; Rev.21:1-5 [ All made new ]; Rev.3:12 heavenly come down out of heaven from god to make all new.
Job considers himself for the new earth under the kingdom of the heavens all the 1000 reign of Christ Matt.8:11; until the final cleansing and those remaining are perfect to pass into the kingdom of God and his paradise. 2Cor.12:2,4; Luke 23:43; Rev.2:7;

2007-01-03 00:50:36 · answer #3 · answered by jeni 7 · 0 0

When Paul wrote that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God in 1 Cor 15:50 the discussion in the earlier paragraphs relates to comparision of the natural body to the spiritual body. What Paul is implying is that the corrupted body made from the dust of the earth will not enter but the body made in heaven given to us when Jesus comes back will enter the kingdom of God. 'Thy kingdom come' that is mentioned in Matt 6:10 refers ultimately to Jesus' reign on earth when He comes back. In the meantime God's kingdom is in all of us. To the extent we can manifest God's kingdom (ie His power or reign) through our lives to change the world to that extent the kingdom has come.

2007-01-03 00:54:29 · answer #4 · answered by seekfind 6 · 0 0

>> Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God?         I do not disagree with Paul. However, the only misconception we can draw on his statement is if we equate fallen flesh and blood in the same category as glorified flesh and blood. Jesus said He will eat and drink the Lord's Supper with us again in Heaven (Mat 26:26-29). That is not possible if we are not flesh and blood. >> What I am saying is that God knowingly allows evil to >> happen and that it is a conscience choice on His part.         I believe that to be a true statement. However, I am sure you are not also saying that He does this because He wants evil things to happen -- correct? ;-) God bless.

2016-05-22 22:34:36 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Saying, that earthly things can not inherit the kingdom of God. Even the flesh of man can not go to Heaven. Thats why God said we would get a new body. Those that are saved by the blood of Jesus Christ our Savior. Another words, BORN AGAIN.

2007-01-03 00:44:38 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Flesh and blood refer to the fleshly or worldly state of man. Being reborn is being reborn in the spirit being that we are creatures of both flesh and spirit. Flesh cannot inherit the kingdom of god. I'm not sure what you are trying to say here but THY is referring to the father and the kingdoms are the same. Thy kingdom comes means until the return of Christ and the new Jerusalem
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I think this is JW babble ...isnt it?

2007-01-03 00:37:43 · answer #7 · answered by Robert K 5 · 1 0

Well...
Taking into consideration that in Luke 17:21, Jesus says:

Luk 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Here, we get sort of a definition of God's Kingdom that can come here on earth. The words used are "entos humos" which mean "in/between you."
If the kingdom of God is the same with His will, then there is no distinction. The kingdom of God in us is what happens when we turn to God. We change our master, and we get a new King. That is God's kingdom on earth, IN us. Which I'm thinking that it must be His will on earth... That everything that is done in heaven - Him getting the glory, us serving Him, us loving Him - is also present on earth. In the Church (notice the capital C, I'm not referring to a man's institution, but to the community of believers), God gets ON EARTH what He gets in Heaven. That is how His will is done on earth.
Flesh and blood... that's a whole different thing. It is a metaphor. Here are some notes on that phrase:
Geneva: (c) Flesh and blood are taken here for a living body, which cannot attain to incorruption, unless it puts off corruption.
Barnes: Flesh and blood - Bodies organized as ours now are. “Flesh and blood” denotes such bodies as we have here, bodies that are fragile. weak, liable to disease, subject to pain and death. They are composed of changing particles; to be repaired and strengthened daily; they are subject to decay, and are wasted away by sickness, and of course they cannot be suited to a world where there shall be no decay and and no death.
Clarke: 1Co 15:50 -
Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom - This is a Hebrew periphrasis for man, and man in his present state of infirmity and decay. Man, in his present state, cannot inherit the kingdom of God; his nature is not suited to that place; he could not, in his present weak state, endure an exceeding great and eternal weight of glory. Therefore, it is necessary that he should die, or be changed; that he should have a celestial body suited to the celestial state. The apostle is certainly not speaking of flesh and blood in a moral sense, to signify corruption of mind and heart; but in a natural sense; as such, flesh and blood cannot inherit glory, for the reasons already assigned.

I'm taking the other references to flesh and blood: Mat. 16:17, 1 Cor. 15:50(your reference), Gal. 1:16, Eph. 6:12, Hebr. 2:14.

Now, if you want to get some doctrine, you must look at the other references as well.
BUT there is a difference between flesh and blood and God's kingdom on earth. No, there is none between God's will and His Kingdom.
And, well, I'm writing such a lung thing because when I answered one of your previous questions you asked me for details. I'm giving you details now. Want some more? ( :( Hope not...)

2007-01-03 00:54:09 · answer #8 · answered by Cristina 4 · 0 0

Half my family is Jehovah Witness, so I know the answer to this. It has to be read in context.
Thy Kingdom, THY WILL BE DONE, on Earth as it is in Heaven. It means Gods' will being done on Earth.

2007-01-03 00:45:50 · answer #9 · answered by Hermes Trismegistus 2 · 1 1

Doing the will of God is an indication that you are already in the Kingdom of God.

You have forgotten to mention the Father... thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven...

2007-01-03 00:37:26 · answer #10 · answered by wacky_racer 5 · 1 1

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