The 14th amendment, in SPITE of its authors clearly repeated intentions, wound up granting automatic citizenship to anyone born in the U.S.
For a while, some European countries had similar laws. They've rescinded them entirely.
Who's up for organizing a huge, nationwide peaceful sit-down strike for as long as it takes to get the new congress and state governments to ratify:
a new amendment
stating that a child born in the U.S.
after January 1st, 1993
shall be granted U.S. citizenship
ONLY IF
if it can be proven
that at least one parent,
for at least one year before the birth of the child,
was a legal CITIZEN of the United States
and under its Jurisdiction?
When do we start?
2007-01-02
15:57:20
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Okay. TO CLARIFY::::
Citizenship by birth was NEVER a part of the original constitution.
The 14th Amendment was written and ratified in 1868.
The authors made clear time and again that granting citizenship to just anyone born on US soil was absurd.
They passed a federal law (not an amendment) 2 years later worded almost identical to the wording in the 14th but that clarified no child of a non-citizen would be given automatic citizenship. Their knowledge of law and solid intentions for the good of the U.S. were incontrovertible.
It takes some acrobatic imagination to weave any thought of Jedi Knights, Racism, Race Cars, etc. into a thing that never mentions nor alludes to any of the above.
Jerry D. - Good question. If a couple are both from the same country, and there's no ANCHOR BABY to exploit, I think they'd still belong at their home.
2007-01-02
16:24:27 ·
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eMale - Are you not aware of the number of children exploited for citizenship rights?
I moved to a Chinese speaking country, learned Chinese (Mandarin) in about 7 months and considered staying (food was TOOO good!).
But I hope to God I would never stoop so low as to impregnate a girl and subject a newborn to courtroom drama.
2007-01-02
16:34:42 ·
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Franson: All in all, not a bad suggestion. The more we know, T. Jefferson insisted, the better.
"An enlightened citizenry is indispensable for the proper functioning of a republic."
The concept of a Jury Legislature empowers the very constituency to wrest legislation from the congress but only in randomly selected, sufficiently large groups of the pertinent constituency, fully informed and tested as to prove a reasonable understanding necessary to vote responsibly. Good for you!
2007-01-02
16:44:29 ·
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I think we start by ripping the white sheets from the heads of people who hide behind them to spew their racial bile.
Or unplug their computers...whichever.
2007-01-02 16:06:58
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I'm for that. But I don't think you can make it retro active to 1993....I believe the Constitution prohibits ex post facto laws. In other words, you can't change what the law was in 1993. Everyone born in the US up to the time the new amendment takes effect will still be a citizen.
Funny how when people have no argument they call you racist. For all they know you may be a legal immigrant from a Spanish speaking country, like Guatemala, for example.
2007-01-02 16:14:22
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answered by Chapin 3
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actually, i see no problem with that law in america. my mother is half chinese and she has problems getting a visa and passport because her father is chinese, eventhough she was born here and my grandfather has been living in the country for years until he died. it would be a lot easier for her to have a visa or passport if she would have been acknowledged as a citizen of the country. but these are the rules of the country, we have senators that i hope consider all the factors needed to be considered before they make a law. but if the basis of changing the law is because most of the countries have this law, it would not be fair because every country has their own needs and they are not all the same. all i am saying is that if the other countries have that law, we shouldn't make that as our law as well for the sake of copying and being part of the biggest number having that law.
2007-01-02 16:25:38
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I wonder why it is "racist" to want only legal US citizens to be able to have a US baby. But its not racist to have a group called La Raza whos motto is "For the race everything for others nothing. (Google La Raza see for yourself) Also, another nugget is Atzlan, the mythical land of milk and honey for the illegals. The illegals think we stole THIER land..Ha. All they would have is more land to turn into a sewer. Get over it illegals, your going home soon. Now only a few thousand at a time (Raids deportations ect.) but soon thousands a day and then millions...Aw deee...ooo..ss losers.
2007-01-02 16:14:54
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answered by Anonymous
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i agree with that...........and i want to see my hubby become legal here...... thats not racist...........thats areally good point . and also if the child is a citzen but the parents aren't ...... who is going to raise baby this is a way of starting to put the brakes on future problems. even thoguh we need to correct the one we have now. i am a borned citizen of the united states and a mixture of including native american.oh_hell
2007-01-02 17:21:09
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answered by oh_hell_imagine_that 4
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I am, absolutely!! I hope the legal citizens of America will love their country enought to get off their butts and get on their congressmen's. It seems once they get in office they immediately forget what they are there for, and who put them there. Do you think they would notice if we went on strike?
2007-01-02 16:29:32
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answered by bella 3
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Well, if we are going to make citizenship harder to obtain, let's go all the way...
An annual test. Language, history, culture. Everyone has to take it (vets exempted). No passee, no votee. Why should you get special treatment just because you were lucky enough to be born to citizens.
While we are at it, if you aren't a vet, you'll need to provide certificate showing the 100 hours of community service you provided that year.
2007-01-02 16:33:33
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answered by franson 4
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My question is this, If they are not citizen of the US where are they citizens of? Mexico for example is not obligated to grant citizenship to people born elsewhere.
2007-01-02 16:05:18
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answered by Jerry 3
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Then i think we should all take our butts elsewhere and leave this country to the people it truly belongs to..... The Native Americans!!!!!!! We are all immigrants except them.
2007-01-02 17:02:07
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answered by Oranges 2
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i go for your Constitutional Amendment
i wouldn't no longer be a U.S Citizen, i be illegal Alien!!! my mother was legally here but not a U.S citizen?
2007-01-02 16:12:55
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answered by Anonymous
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I'm all for this. As a precondition, I think we need to de-naturalize everyone who isn't directly descended from a signer of the original Constitution...so that we can get rid of all these undersirable immigrants from western Europe, and level the playing field.
(Don't whine, you can all get your citizenship back...in a few years...just try not to pop out any kids between now and then.)
This is an absurd notion.
2007-01-02 16:02:30
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answered by David G 5
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