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think it's right to prey to her? is she a co savior co redeemer? I think that Jesus is the only medator between God and man.

What do you think?

2007-01-02 07:22:52 · 23 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

23 answers

Yes. Mary was a sinner like you and me. Even when Jesus was sitting at the table with his peeps they said Jesus your mother and brothers are calling you and Jesus said my brothers are here with me something about all who believe in God. My point, she was not so superior that Jesus jumped when she called him. I grew up Catholic and basically Catholics don't believe that you can just pray to Jesus, instead you have to pray or as they say talk to Mary, who then pleads with Jesus, who then talks to God. What the heck?! That is so not what the bible says. There is a HUGE Mary statue that they would roll around in my community and people would go and 'talk' to her and light candles, which was more like pray when I see people on their knees, hands clutched which is a form of worship. Also, you have to pray to saints and statues. Uh, doesn't the Bible say that we are not to pray to any handmade idols and statues?! Seriously, if there are any Catholics reading this, you need to pick up the Bible and read it for yourself. Even your pope, Peter the first Pope was married and he would NOT allow anyone to bow down to him or kiss his hand because he was a sinner like you and me. Uh, how come the Pope now lets people do that? Seriously, that religon is quite something! I think that what is most important is not the religion but the relationship with Jesus. They don't. It's all about the Church.

2007-01-02 07:28:41 · answer #1 · answered by Jessica 5 · 0 3

From the Catholic perspective, being called "co-redeemer" refers to Mary’s unique human participation with Jesus (and entirely subordinate to her divine son) in the historic work of saving humanity from sin. Jesus is the only Redeemer, in the sense that he alone as the one divine mediator between God and man could redeem or “buy back” the human family from the bonds of Satan and sin.

Early Christian writers called her the “New Eve,” who together with Jesus, the “New Adam,” accomplished the work of salvation for all the fallen children of the original Adam and Eve. The primary reason for this is because Mary participated fully with God in God's plan for the salvation of man. She was "full of grace" as the Archagel called her, not by her name.

It is not Jesus alone, but all the disciples (Peter, John, the Magdalene), who call Mary, “Mother.” On Calvary, Mary receives from Jesus her designation as universal Mother.

Jesus gave us the Church, the Church is a family. God is our Father, Jesus our brother, and Mary our mother. All of this is of course to be understood in a spiritual way.

The uses of "co" is NOT how the Church is using the word in reference to Mary as Co-Redeemer. In this context think of "co" as collaborator and cooperator. Mary did indeed, as described in the Bible, cooperate and collaborate with the Holy Spirit to give birth to the Redeemer of the world. This does not make her, herself, a redeemer or a "vice" redeemer or co-pilot, but merely a cooperator and collaborator to bring the Redeemer to the world.

2007-01-02 16:02:25 · answer #2 · answered by mr_mister1983 3 · 0 0

This is a huge question, and is not limited to Catholicism. It's better to ask, what is the proper role of Mary in Christian worship? If Catholics are thought to overemphasize Mary, non-Catholics are thought to marginalize her.

It is agreed among doctrine of all Christian faiths that Mary is not an equal with God, nor a part of the Trinity. She is a servant, as all Saints are servants of the Lord.

Disagreement enters because very little is known of Mary after Jesus' Crucifixion. It is known from the Church fathers (disciples of Jesus' initial disciples - Polycarp, Chrysostom, etc.) that Mary was highly regarded and venerated for her intercession (Christians asked for her to pray for them).

To say that Mary is co-mediatrix or co-redemptrix is one of those complicated debates that has not yet resolved itself. In the seminary halls you will hear this debate - but it almost never comes up in the lay Catholic's experience. For most Catholics, Mary is an example of an imitator of Christ who complied with God's grace and lived humbly and in holiness.

Where I think she is overemphasized springs from some cultures (particularly indigenous peoples in South America and Africa) where the people are Christian but have not entirely rejected their pagan heritage. Instead, they impute the powers previously held by a pagan goddess and confer them on Mary. Note that this is not official Church teaching - instead, it is what local peoples come to believe.

The reported apparitions of Mary - whether at Guadalupe in the 16th century or Medjujorge more recently - are left up to the individual to believe or to reject. The Catholic Church teaches that God is still speaking - we have revelation in the form of Scripture, and revelation has continued to pass through the Magisterium for the past 2000 years. However, if you see Mary's face or Jesus' face in the clouds, that is your private revelation and should be kept in your heart prayerfully. The aforementioned apparitions of Mary have received much popularity and as such Marian veneration has increased.

Is this too much influence? Certainly if one's faith in Christ is lessened - cannibalized - by faith in Mary. However, if Mary and the saints are honored as heroes for the faith and examples of Christlike love to be imitated, then I see no harm.

2007-01-02 17:13:06 · answer #3 · answered by Veritatum17 6 · 1 0

Catholics do think strongly of Mary. However, they DO NOT WORSHIP HER! People say that all the time and it is not true! They believe that to carry the child of the Holy Spirit in her womb, she must have been very special. For this reason, they rank her just about right next to Jesus in their religious beliefs.

2007-01-02 15:26:40 · answer #4 · answered by onbelay_belayon 2 · 2 0

Role....not roll

Pray...not prey (she isn't a wolf hunting her food...)

Mediator...not medator

You can have your belief. The Catholic religion as a whole finds her very important as she is the mother of Jesus....without whom you would have no "medator".

2007-01-02 15:26:41 · answer #5 · answered by Heck if I know! 4 · 1 0

Well,

It is pray, and FYI,

Catholics do NOT believe that Holy Mary is a Co-Savior and we also do NOT believe that Holy Mary is a co-redeemer.

Maybe you should first find out what Catholics REALLY believe before asking silly questions.

You can start here:
www.Catholic.com

The truth might surprise you, it did me and I became Catholic myself last year!

Peace!

2007-01-02 15:41:16 · answer #6 · answered by C 7 · 0 0

i believe that jesus was only holy. mary only carried him in her womb. in a mothers womb the child has their own set of blood. she mary did not have jesus's blood. therefore she is not holy. and she is not a savior or redeemer. jesus IS the only MEDATOR between god and man.

2007-01-02 15:29:26 · answer #7 · answered by tuxedokitty 2 · 0 1

Yes, only Jesus is the way, both of them arent happy with people asking Mary for help...it is not biblical, rather:

Babylon was a center of idolatry in the cult of the gods. One account states that the priests and the faithful “used to lavish attention upon their sacred images, considering the statues as intermediaries with the gods. The statues were covered with expensive vestments, adorned with necklaces, bracelets, and rings; they rested on sumptuous beds and were taken out in procession over land and water on foot, in carriages and private boats.” How similar to the worship rendered to gods, saints, and Madonnas in modern Hinduism, Buddhism, and Catholicism, in which they likewise parade their images through streets and on rivers and the sea!

As a further example of the parallel between ancient Babylon and modern religion, consider the following description taken from the same encyclopedia: “Her faithful believers call her by the sweetest names: She is not only goddess and lady but also merciful mother, she who listens to prayers, she who intercedes . . . she who has given life to the universe and to humanity.” Compare that to the following prayer from El Santo Rosario (The Holy Rosary): “We give you thanks, Sovereign Princess, for the favors we receive every day from your beneficent hand; be so kind, Lady, as to have us now and forever under your protection and shelter.”

Who is the subject of this description and the prayer? Many will immediately conclude, “The Virgin Mary.” That answer is only half right. The prayer is offered to Mary. However, as Las Grandes Religiones Ilustradas informs us, the first quotation is a description of Ishtar, the “Lady of Love,” the Babylonian goddess of fertility, love, and war. Sometimes she is presented in images “as a mother suckling her baby boy.” Yet another example of how modern religion is not such a far cry from ancient Babylon!

2007-01-02 15:40:47 · answer #8 · answered by Gizelle K 3 · 1 2

The "Virgin" Mary is just a figure head to the church. They pay false Honor to Her, because that is how they took the name, (MOTHER). If anyone watched Pope John Pauls funeral, they would have noticed, Mary, on his casket. The church is an all male entity, that keeps woman, firmly crushed, beneath its Boots.
Christianity is raised up on one side, the mans.

2007-01-02 15:32:44 · answer #9 · answered by Lukusmcain// 7 · 0 1

Yes, as a matter of fact, I do. Especially when it comes to praying to her. Why, when we have God, would a person want to pray to her for help? Wouldn't you just want to pray to God? The whole concept devalues the roll of the Savior.
And in response to "I know...Do You"; without God we would have no savior either, so we're back to praying to God.

2007-01-02 15:28:40 · answer #10 · answered by Spud55 5 · 0 1

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