Jesus was a Jew who never ate pork. Why do the gentiles of today think its OK to consume swine.?

Question

In Leviticus 11 God, the creator of all things, clearly gives the rules his people are to live by. He specifically states that swine are unclean and shall not be eaten by his people. This directive is clear. It is obeyed by observant Jews as well as Muslims.

God demanded a covenant from his people in at least four separate areas of the bible and the Koran. All males are to be circumcised at 8 days of age in a ritual if they are strong enough to undertake the procedure. In the New Testament, a book largely written after the death of Jesus by the apostles, the Mosaic laws were cancelled or modified. The direct connection with God was severed with the introduction of the concept of God having a son, something which most people of the day found ridiculous.

Jesus ate no pork and was circumcised. Is that not good enough for today's self righteous and judgemental Christians or do they have to go around wagging their index finger and threatening eternal damnation for everybody else?

Answer 1

Actually, if you believe that Jesus, or Y'shua, is the Messiah, He can't have eaten pork. If He did, He can't have been the Messiah because he'd not have kept Torah completely. If you believe he's the Messiah, or Meschiach, you can know he didn't eat pork.

Separately, I believe Y'shua to be a Meschiach, pointing people back to Mosaic law as a means to connect with HaSham/Allah (Blessed is He). If there is anything in the New Testament that seems to contradict the Torah/Koran (for me it's Torah because I'm Jewish but I also revere the scriptures of my Muslim cousins), I say re-evaluate the interpretation of the New Testemant which is mostly a collection of letters from Rabbi Paul. Torah is the final word for me and everything must stand up against that. It doesn't matter what's popular, or trendy, or anything else.

As for meat, Kosher/Hallal is not handled the way other meat is so the argument about meat being so dirty and such doesn't really work in this case. The standards for raising and the method of slaughter of these meats are so much higher I know people who aren't Jewish or Muslim who choose to eat this type of meat for those reasons alone. I'm sure there are some Kosher/Hallal slaugherhouses that have been in trouble but I haven't heard about them yet, seen a lawsuit of a kosher meat packing plant on the news or a case of e-coli from a Hebrew National hot dog.

As far as circumcision, keeping Kosher, following Mosaic law (Torah or Koran).

If people are Christians, I've only this question: If we are to be imitators of Christ, why do we feel we've the right to pick and choose the things that Christ did that we get to imitate? I know people don't want to talk about it much but Christ was a Jew. He didn't have blond hair and blue eyes, light skin and Western European features. He was a Semite. His name was Y'shua. He want to a synagogue. He kept Shabbat, sundown to sundown, he kept kosher, he was circumcised, he drank wine every Shabbat evening with dinner, he wore a talit and tzitzit, he observed the biblically commanded holidays of Passover (pesach), not Easter; Shavuot (the giving of the Torah); and Succot. He was born on Succot, in the fall, in a Succah. It's time we started seeing Y'shua for who he really was, a Hebrew. And he said, "I did not come to do away with the Law but that through me the Law might be fulfilled. (Matt. 5:17-18)" In Y'shua's life is the fullness of the Law in that he kept ALL of it, not only every little jot and tittle but the heart and soul of it, as well. May we all follow his example and know us by our love for one another.

Answer 2

Well...

Blame the New Testament, more specificly, St. Peter. In Acts 10:7-17. Basicly, Peter has a vision of God presenting him with, what up until then had been "unclean" animals and commanding him to "Get up, Peter. Kill and eat." Peter refuses, and this goes on twice more. This, vision, and the fact that Peter was the apostile who focused most heavily on converting the Gentiles to Christianity, is the reason most often sited.

Now, if you wanted an answer to your question, there you go.

As far as "good enough for today's self righteous and judgemental Christians or do they have to go around wagging their index finger and threatening eternal damnation for everybody else?", well, EVERY religion has nuts that have the belief that their interpretation of "God's Will" is the one true way, and that all infidels must perish - they're call "fanatics" . Yep, even the Jews. Check your history... and Jesus broke a few of the Mosiac laws himself - go read Matthew 12:1-12 for not one, but two examples of Jesus breaking the one on:

"But the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God; you shall not do any work—you, or your son or your daughter, or your male or female slave, or your ox or your donkey, or any of your livestock, or the resident alien in your towns, so that your male and female slave may rest as well as you."
-Deuteronomy 5:14

and that would be one of the "Big 10". Not to mention all the Roman laws he broke, and let's not even get started on taboos - remember the "violence in the temple" bit? BIG no-no.

So, if you look at what the Apostiles did after he "died", well, looks like they were just following in his footsteps, don't it?

Hope that helps...

Answer 3

It's my understanding that non-Jewish Christians believe that God gave them a message saying that unclean animals were acceptable to be eaten. In their New Testament, it says in the book of Acts chapter 10 verses 9 through 16 that Peter went to a house top to pray, and had a vision that a great sheet descended from the heavens; it contained all sorts of animals, clean and unclean (by Jewish standards). In his vision, he was told to eat from these animals, but Peter refused, saying that he had never eaten from unclean animals. In his vision, he received the response that "What God hath clensed, thou shalt not call common." Christians take this to mean, effectively, that God said it was ok to eat whatever they like. This requires a belief on their part in the New Testament scriptures, of course.

In my experience, very few Christians have any idea what is or is not "clean" under the laws of the Torah; I have heard many simply say that "Jesus 'fulfilled' all the laws" so they don't have to. It's not a point of view I agree with for a variety of reasons (I'm Jewish), but it's not my job to say what someone else should believe, so if that's what works for them, then that's what they should follow - as long as they don't try to shove it down MY throat.

Answer 4

God also came to Peter in a dream once and Peter saw a large napkin or tablecloth with it's corners tied together descending to the ground before him. It opened up and all sorts of creatures were running around on it, some good to eat, others that had been forbidden by OT dietary laws. God said to Peter, Arise Peter, kill and eat". Peter said, "Not so Lord, for some of these are unclean." God then replied, "arise Peter, kill and eat. For what I HAVE CALLED CLEAN, CALL THOU NOT UNCLEAN AND WHAT I HAVE CALLED UNCLEAN, CALL THOU NOT CLEAN". Why God would radically change the allowance of certain things that could now be eaten when they couldn't be eaten in the past is beyond my understanding, but I DO know that when we're given a directive from God, we can obey it with a clean conscience and understanding in accordance to the measure of our faith.

Answer 5

First off, there's no record of whether Jesus ever ate pork or not; it's reasonable to assume He didn't, but we don't really know.

The laws of Leviticus were given to the Israelis at a particular time and circumstance; it was not said that all people (particularly non-Jews) would be bound by them for all time. Considering that the same laws call for the immediate execution of homosexuals, adulterers, and anyone who wears clothing made of two different fibers (it's true, look it up) - maybe it's a good thing we don't take all of them to heart.

Answer 6

Acts Chapter 10
14: But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
15: And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

Matthew Chapter 15
17: Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught?
18: But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.
19: For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:
20: These are the things which defile a man:

Answer 7

I think the real reason is that Christians do not devolop their morality from the bible. They say they do, they may even think that they do, but it is clear that most have never read the bible all the way though, and the few that have do not understand it.

Since Christians do not devolop their morality from the bible, they must get it from somewhere else: genetics and common sense. Common sense in America says that it is fine to eat pork.

Studies have shown that circumcision, while not really harmful, is definately not beneficial, so there is no reason to put babies through the pain that they go through for no reason at all, except that an old book says that they should.

Answer 8

Now, you must be another Moslem trying to "Preach" the "Wisdom" of the Koran; so I really don't know if there's much of a point trying to tell you this.

Meat of any kind is dangerous, if it's not prepared properly.

Also, UTIs happen more out of unhygenic maintenance than anything else.

Jesus was called the Physician because He taught people the Truth about many things people blindly followed in ignorance from the Torah, aka Old Testament.

He taught people the fact that pork and a lot of other meats proscribed in the Torah, processed properly, were safe and edible. He also taught people of the simple rules of hygeine which negated the need to be circumcised and He absolved Christians from the things in the Torah.

Why don't you Moslems get it into your thick, prejudiced heads that your Mohammad only succeeded in taking all your people backwards ????

Answer 9

The previous testomony of the Bible is composed of the different Jewish nutritional regulations which coated not ingesting beef. this continues to be observed via some human beings of the Jewish faith. Jesus became a Jew yet did not set up the guidelines regarding kosher nutrition. Christianity follows the era of Christ's existence and maximum Christians would not join the nutritional regulations of the previous testomony.

Answer 10

Well, I know one christian sect that practice all of these stuff. They are the monophysites or a.k.a as the Abyssinian christians. Eventhough they believe jesus as the son of the living god, still they practice as what you have mentioned above because the king of ethopia is actually a royal blood line of david.

The funny part is even the most christians today doen't obey the basic 7 noahide laws.

The other christians I don't know about their domanation....