aganist a skill person do you find ways to take him down or should I adopted stand up fighting if so wich on of these and why : kick boxing , boxing, ,japanese ju jitsu.
2007-01-01 19:04:12 · 9 answers · asked by Anonymous in Sports ➔ Martial Arts
Traditionally Ju Jitsu said you'd take your opponent to the ground as fast as possible. This was because you were assuming he was armed with a spear, sword or bow other long weapon you didn't want him to use. BJJ was a huge change in that it added back several standing defenses for use in street fighting with the gangs a Brazil. The problem is in street fight, that unless you agree to an honest and fair fight that is one on one, you'll most likely be facing 2 or more opponents. Ground fighting against multiple attackers, while not impossible, is still very hard. If you're one on one go to ground fast. It will happen anyway, you might as well make it happen on your terms. If you're in a real street fight though, always assume he has a friend who will jump in. In which case stay on your feet and think escape, not grapple. Wrist locks and things you can use to subdue one opponent with one hand while defending yourself with the other are more useful here, but you want to flee if you can. Train for both grappling and standing fights.
2007-01-02 00:04:47 · answer #1 · answered by jjbeard926 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
If you're gonna roll with a dude in a speedo on a nicely padded mat, going straight to the ground is fine. In a real fight, you want to stay on your feet. You're not on a forgiving surface. You don't control the number of opponents or how they're armed; you may be totally owning the dude with your mad grappling skills when his three buddies come around the corner. Or you could have him in your guard when he pulls a knife...you get the idea.
You could say that most other arts are going to have trouble with numbers and weapons, too, and you'd be right. But on your feet, you have more options than on the ground. (Notably, you can *move*.)
Of the options you listed, a good JJJ teacher will give you the broadest base to work from, but as with all martial arts instruction, the teacher is more important than the art, and you have to work with what you have available. If all you have available is a good boxing coach and a bad BJJ teacher, box.
If you're serious about self-defense, look for training that considers weapons and numbers from the jump: filipino and indonesian martial arts or WWII combatives may be fruitful avenues to explore.
ps. Note that I said you *want* to stay on your feet. You may not *get* to stay on your feet, so best you have trained some form of groundfighting, somewhere along the way. But going to the ground on purpose is just silly.
2007-01-02 04:00:39 · answer #2 · answered by Nick jr 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Most Serious BJJ students require about 6 months to a year in order to be called Adept in ground fighting.
While they may not takedown people very well, since takedowns aren't really taught in detail till later, they can definately submit most people untrained in ground fighting.
Most whitebelts will tend to "pull guard" which is basically wrapping one's legs around the opponent and dragging the opponent down to the ground.(not such a good idea on the street)
More advanced BJJ students will go for a shoot, which is to grab the legs of the opponent, and either pick him/her up or unbalance the opponent. This method tends to be better as it usually puts the BJJer in a mount. Basically sitting on the opponent, which then gives on the option of pounding the opponent or submitting with various jointlocks.
Even if you learn to fight on the ground, you should still learn to strike. It not only gives you more options but it also better prepares you for when you face a skilled striker.
I would recommend Thai Boxing as the art of choice because in addition to powerful kicks and basic punching, it deals with a poorly understood area in most arts. The clinch. this is the position you see alot of boxers in when they are overcome by the opponent's punches. In this range, Thai boxing uses a variety of knee and elbow strikes that can be quite devastating.
Hope that answers your question.
2007-01-02 11:06:51 · answer #3 · answered by Shard of Akar 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
BJJ (Brazillian Ju Jitsu?) could be taken in the wrong way. If you have to fight,you should adjust to your opponent in the way which benefits you best. If it's a streetfight make sure you've got backup in case things get too hairy and you need someone who can at least stop the fight and keep you from getting gravely hurt.
2007-01-02 03:08:13 · answer #4 · answered by KM 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The idea that all fights go to the ground eventually is a misnomer. Only untrained brawlers eventually go to the ground. You should know what to do if you end up there, but your goal should not be to go straight there.
Reason: if someone is going to start a fight with you on the street, it is more than likely he has one or more friends willing to fight with him. If you go to the ground with that guy, how can you defend yourself from his tag team? Kickboxing is unbalanced; it places too much emphasis on legwork. Boxing is too limiting. Jujitsu puts you in a place where you're ultimately too vulnerable.
As for training, you should never stop. And you should do so with the idea in mind that you're trying to avoid street fights, not instigate or even beg for them.
2007-01-02 18:49:54 · answer #5 · answered by ShaolinDragon 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
grappling may be a really awesome thing to know, but to use it to roll on the ground in a street fight is putting you at risk. does the opponent have a friend? a dog? a knife in his pocket? keep up unless you have no choice, and even then I suggest getting up as quick as you can. there is no honor in fighting, and you will get a head kick from their friends. seen it many times. the pack mentality is the reason most people fight anyway, because they have back up.
2007-01-02 13:21:55 · answer #6 · answered by SAINT G 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
hahhaha ground?haahaha streetfight hahaha.you wont be laughing when your in the hospital.
do stand up crosstrain in ground.against a skilled person you'd never get the chance to go to the ground.forget all the hype,bjj,mma,krap maggot and a couple of others are just a fad and everyone wants to jump on the band wagon.
2007-01-02 06:54:37 · answer #7 · answered by BUSHIDO 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Personally, I'd stay away from the ground in a streetfight. There are too many variables to say much more than that.
2007-01-02 03:59:47 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
a life time
2007-01-02 05:14:23 · answer #9 · answered by Wat Da Hell 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋