Can we conclude, based on the story of the Passion of Jesus, that God is in fact a being of this universe?

Question

I have seen it argued that God could be seperate from our reality, and therefore would not be subject to the laws of nature that he put in place to govern the universe. If we look at the sacrifice of God's son, and assume that God is Omnipotent, this would lead us to the conclusion that God was fulfilling a need he had set in place, and thereby would show us that He was subject to his own laws. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

Just for the record, I am an Atheist. I hope the question doesn't offend.

Answer 1

I believe God lived as man through Jesus to understand what it's like to be man, wouldn't it make sense if your going to judge someone to walk in their shoes.

Answer 2

God is not in the universe She is the universe.

She created the universe from the only thing that She had available, Herself.

You and the most distant star from you in the universe both exist within the idea of God.

This is a difficult concept for most people to comprehend because they have been taught nonsense about God. Like the idea that God lives far away on a cloud called heaven. God is not a raindrop. Raindrops live in clouds Not God. This is foolishness.

Jesus told us that the kingdom of God is within us. This is true because each and every one of us exist as a part of God. We live and move within our loving source. There is no moment or possibility that we can ever be apart from her.

Forget the silly stories that you have been told about a distant God that lives in the clouds. Look around you. Everything that you see is God.

Love and blessings.
Don

Answer 3

Yes Jesus is God, therefore a being in this universe. Although Jesus is 100 percent divine as well, and came so that the prophecies would be fufilled. Although God the soul, did not become a human, and is not subject to the laws of nature. Yes their was a need, for us humans, but none for him. He decided to send his son, to save us from our sins. God is not a corrupt jugdge, therefore he must punish sin. Maybe he chosed to sacrifice himself, so that his love would be known to mankind. Or maybe he just chose to limit his powers. The bible says God is the same yesterday today and forever, which kinda says, God always was, and does not dwell in the dimesion of time. This also says that God does have limits, since he cannot change.

Answer 4

In a way you're right. Jesus, when he was in the form of a man was subject to the laws of the universe that he made. The fact that he could die is partially proof of that. Philippians 2:5-11 tells us that Jesus set aside some of his godly qualities in order to become a man. Afterall, a man cannot be omnipresent, right? He is limited to his body.
But God, in his fulness, in his glory, is not bound or limited by the laws of this universe. He existed before the univers existed and before time existed. How could he be limited by something that did not exist until he made it?

Those are my humble thoughts on the subject.

Answer 5

the two! Jesus is God the Son, the 2d portion of the Trinity: God the daddy, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit: 3 separate persons interior a million Godhead. 'Son of God' is a identify, denoting equality with God, figuring out Him as God. that is not a organic and organic relationship. Even the Jewish leaders on the time of Jesus's preaching understood this: This replaced into why the Jews have been in seek of all the extra to kill him, because of the fact not in undemanding terms replaced into he breaking the Sabbath, yet he replaced into even calling God his very own Father, making himself equivalent with God. - John 5:18

Answer 6

Before you ask a question it would do well to understand the other prospectives. There were gnostics that didn't preceive through an allegory. What if you abide within God? What if God is forces and laws which all things are imbued and is the substance by which all things live and move through? Perhaps even the field? Perhaps the first cause? Almost like you abide within the mind of God?

This is what Paul says, "For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring." - Acts 17:28.

Answer 7

Makes sense to me. I asked not too long ago why, if God is omnipotent, he required a human sacrifice. The most logical answers I got were that he was just playing by the rules.

Answer 8

The question doesn't offend at all. God is a being of the unverse, a holy, all-powerful, all-loving and always present Supreme Being. He came down in the form of man to reveal Himself, so that man can learn about Him. Compare it to a person who loves ants so much that he changed himself into an ant so that he can communicate with the ants and tell in their language that he really loves them.

There is a beautiful story about a king who wanted to find a real loving wife who will become his bride not because of his riches at all. So he disguised himself as a shepherd and went into an isolated village of poor and simple peasants. Later he met a simple, in fact ugly and unattractive girl who has been despised and ill-treated by her own brothers. The king was attracted to the simplicity and innocence of the girl. After sometime the king decided to take the girl as his wife. So he told her that he is going back first to make arrangements with his parents and preparation for a wedding and then he will return to fetch her.
The girl waited and waited for a long time. But one day, there was a commotion in the village when the richest and most powerful, wisest, and glorious king of that time, came with his entourage to fetch her as his bride and take her home to his palace.

This story is found in the book Songs of Solomon. It is actually an allegory of what is going to happen when the King of kings and Lord of lords, who came to earth once and met His bride who believed His promise.

5 I am dark, but lovely,
O daughters of Jerusalem,
Like the tents of Kedar,
Like the curtains of Solomon.
6 Do not look upon me, because I am dark,
Because the sun has tanned me.
My mother’s sons were angry with me;
They made me the keeper of the vineyards,
But my own vineyard I have not kept. (Song of Solomon 1:5,6)

6 Who is this coming out of the wilderness
Like pillars of smoke,
Perfumed with myrrh and frankincense,
With all the merchant’s fragrant powders?
7 Behold, it is Solomon’s couch,
With sixty valiant men around it,
Of the valiant of Israel.
8 They all hold swords,
Being expert in war.
Every man has his sword on his thigh
Because of fear in the night.
9 Of the wood of Lebanon
Solomon the King
Made himself a palanquin:[a]
10 He made its pillars of silver,
Its support of gold,
Its seat of purple,
Its interior paved with love
By the daughters of Jerusalem.
11 Go forth, O daughters of Zion,
And see King Solomon with the crown
With which his mother crowned him
On the day of his wedding,
The day of the gladness of his heart. (Song of Solomon 3:6-11)

Answer 9

Well, there is always the theory that God IS the universe....

Answer 10

if imaginary characters are electrical impulses that are created in a mind with in this universe, then yes.