yet "catholic" and "christian" clerics will shout "grace", "grace" as the body count mounts in their war against "The Way to The Truth of The Life" ;-(
2007-01-01 05:20:58 · 9 answers · asked by pilgrimandstranger 2 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
What on earth are you talking about? Seriously - it doesn't make enough sense to answer; can you ask it with more explanation of what it is you are really saying? (I am not trying to be disrespectful of you here).
2007-01-01 05:24:20 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
apmresearch Mr Church Mans Pastor:
You just seem to have cloud your reasoning by belief/faith, thats the reason you are saying words like serving "Lord Jesus".
I totally feel your handicapped by faith. Open up your mind and think, try to understand the real nature of life. I am advising you because it seems Like with a little help you may very well think independently.
Ask yourself a simple question, have you ever independently thought about anything. Belief blinds reasoning.
-from an Aethist
2007-01-01 13:34:10 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
My pastor puts it this way:
First, you get saved even though you don't deserve it. This is where grace comes in and Jesus is Savior.
Then, you obey Him after He has forgiven you. This is where you surrender to Him and Jesus is Lord.
People who call Him Lord, but don't obey go through the first step and not the second. It is equally a sin to go through the second step without going through the first. You must be saved by grace, and then your good deeds come in as gratitude for your salvation. Faith without works is dead, since works prove faith. And righteousness without faith is like filthy rags, because we are never good enough to actually deserve to go to heaven.
2007-01-01 13:32:15 · answer #3 · answered by Lady of the Garden 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
As a Christian Pastor it amazes me the number of people that seem to think they can call Jesus their Lord and yet continue to live their lives in a manner which opposed HIS teachings.
Christianity is not a get out of Hell card, there are responsibilities and consequences.
It is my desire this year to eradicate from my life those things which are keeping me from serving GOD and Jesus to my fullest extent.
2007-01-01 13:25:57 · answer #4 · answered by drg5609 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I assume you are speaking about the war in Iraq. If that is the case, you should be aware that Jehovah's Witnesses do not participate in war, and are neutral in all things political. We look to Jesus as the ruler of God's Kingdom to take care of all governmental matters.
2007-01-01 14:54:13 · answer #5 · answered by girlinks 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Those who say 'Lord Lord" (allegory Law Law) are notably told they can't enter (depart from me, I know you not), for both old and new Law shuts the trap door when suckered by law and shuts the door if trying to enter heaven above law law. Hence you have to first bind the strong man: law (the strength of sin), and lay aside the weight(law) that so easily besets(hind-ers), to run the race, along with patience, unto the end: the "grace" us end already written.
Go thru all the no enter lists of Jesus and Paul, and see that by law it's none enter (since law prohibits), and by grace it's you'all come, boldly, to the throne of "grace", where only "mercy" is obtain-able, and "help" (not hind-rance), and notably "in time" (not when it's too late): Hebrews 4:16.
It's a "shew"(a comparative law vs grace teaching), God style (the ultimate matrix, the ultimate hollow deck, the ultimate video game... a spiritual training course for spirits), and nobody really dies in a shew, espeically if it's all "allegory" in both "covenants": Galatians 4 and "mystery"(noted over 20 times in NT) that is written "aforetime" for our "learning": Romans 15:4; to "go and learn" what meaneth I will have mercy, and not sacriice, which is repeated from Hos 6:6 as a go figure, go learn what such allegory meaneth: Mt 9:13. Not to mention there are two parts being played: "their part" vs "your part".
http://www.godshew.org/TheirPartYourPart.htm
I guess you didn't notice any of these things with your religious blinders on. Get out of churchy legalism (spiritual food poisoning) and join us, as John Lenon said: I hope you'll join us, by coming out from among them, and the world will be as 'one", but not as "one proselyte", which is twofold: more the CHILD of hell(law) than former hypocrites, fools, vipers, and blind guides who sat in Moses' seat: Law (Mt 23)...
http://www.godshew.org/Allegory3.htm
http://www.godshew.org/Allegory4.htm
worse end of latter end worse or better...
like "seven spirits" mentioned in Revelation:
http://www.godshew.org/Revelations9.htm
There is a natural cure for bi-polar dis-order: flax seed oil capsules; And there is a spiritual cure for law law, and it's called "grace is sufficient" (no law req'd); For adding law worketh wrath to grace is sufficient is as adding death to life, and as adding cursed to blessed, and as adding destroyed to saved.
That's why the conclusion To The Hebrews (a mini bible itself) is the same as the conclusion of the Holy Bible containing Old & New Testaments, one of which is called the "better testament" having a "better hope", the hope of none perish rather than all perish by the u-sing of ordinances(laws): Col 2;20-22..
Hebrews: Grace with you all. Amen.
Revelation: The GRACE of our Lord JC WITH YOU ALL. AMEN.
POINT: endure unto the end to be saved(only) by grace(only); Not both saved + destroyed after by grace + law added: Jude 5.
The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.
2007-01-01 14:12:36 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Jesus Christ can only be your Lord if you obey Him; otherwise He isn't your Lord. We are saved by grace through faith, and not of works, lest anyone should boast. That's why it's imperative you accept Jesus Christ as Saviour AND Lord.
2007-01-01 13:25:41 · answer #7 · answered by utuseclocal483 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Your head question was OK until U blew it with that other giberage.
2007-01-01 13:29:58 · answer #8 · answered by hunter 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Wow. You have everybody in one neat basket. Where do you fit in, or are you all alone?
2007-01-01 13:24:29 · answer #9 · answered by Fish <>< 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋