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in the book 'harry potter and the half-blood prince) there is said to be 7 hocruxes which lord voldemort made. it is said to have " tom riddles diary, slytherins locket, huflepuffs goblet, marvolos ring, one inside voldemort and dumbledore thinks one inside nagini (voldemort snake)."
i think that the last one is in harrys' scar.
i read on a website (something that JK Rowling said) that the last word in the last harry potter book is 'scar'. im thinking that the last sentence might be "harry became immortal and now has no scar???" something along those lines.
would it be possible that the night voldemort murderd harrys' parents, unwillingly put some of his soul into harry which is a hocrux and left the scar?
please give comments on your theories and please tell me if my theory seems good.

ty and happy new year.

2006-12-29 15:10:37 · 10 answers · asked by watching the sunset 5 in Arts & Humanities Books & Authors

2 Jessica H:
i think that voldemort doesnt know that he has unwillingly places some of his soul into harry. i have read on some other questions and someone answered a different question of mine saying that harry might find out what dumbledoor means about the strongest strength someone can have is 'LOVE'. if you read the same few pages in the chapter you have quoted, he says it.

i believe that he opens some room (atm i forgot the name of it lol sorry) that supposedly overwhealms the person with love. they get such love for humanity and i have heard that he sees his mother there. it kinda makes sense since she protected her with her love and she now ends up in the love room. jk rowling also said that there will be things we will find out about lily potter. so this may be one of the things.

i dont have much room atm to keep writting so i will add more details soon.
ty 4 everyones answers and happy new year!

2006-12-30 11:25:09 · update #1

i have a website that has helped me through my theory.
http://www.harrypotterforseekers.com/
it outlines high similarities between the harry potter books and another book. it outlines what they think may happen and most of it makes sense.
i seriously can't wait until the book comes out but i dont want it 2 be the last :(
lol i also have a website for people that dont have access to the books and want to basically read it online. its just chapter summaries but its all good.
harry potter1:
http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/harrypotter/index.html
harry potter2:
http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/potter2/
harry potter3:
http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/potter3/
harry potter4:
http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/potter4/
harry potter5:
http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/harrypotter5/
harry potter6:
http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/potter6/index.html

there you go people.happy new year

2006-12-30 11:40:27 · update #2

10 answers

Actually, Dumbledore told Harry that Voldemort would want a 7-part soul, which would mean that he'd need to create 6 Horcruxes because the 7th part of his soul would remain in his body. And, I doubt that the list they discussed is 100% correct. I don't believe that Nagini is one. Dumbledore said that while it is possible, it is unwise to create a Horcrux with a living creature. Voldemort isn't stupid, he wouldn't risk a portion of his soul in a container that would die, decompose and waste the Horcrux. He is afraid of dying and created the Horcruxes in an attempt to become immortal. I think that Voldemort chose heirlooms that belonged to the four founders of Hogwarts to create his Horcruxes because it was such a signficant place for him personally. It is where he went as a child that allowed him to escape the dreary Muggle orphanage, where he was able to increase his magical power and knowledge, where he was treated with respect and admiration, and where he learned that he was a descendant of one of the greatest wizards of all time. Here is the list of Horcruxes (in my opinion):

1. Tom M. Riddle's diary (destroyed)
2. Slytherin's ring (destroyed)
3. Hufflepuff's cup (unknown location)
4. Slytherin's locket (at #12 Grimmauld Pl.)
5. Ravenclaw's relic (within the Room of Requirement)
6. Gryffindor's relic (hidden in the Riddle house)

I don't believe that Harry's scar is a Horcrux, although I know it is a popular theory. Dumbledore was clearly correct in his conclusion that Voldemort passed some of his powers to Harry (unintentionally) when he gave Harry his scar, but I don't think that means that he did it by putting a piece of his soul in him. It may have just been a consequence of the failed attempt to kill him. We know that Voldemort liked to use significant deaths to create his Horcruxes with, so I think that he intended to use Harry's death (not his body) to create his 6th and final Horcrux. But, since he didn't kill Harry I don't think he was able to make a Horcrux that night. He wouldn't have considered James or Lily's deaths worthy, they were only obstecles in his way to his goal: Harry. Of course that would mean that he'd taken an object with him to the Potter's home to use. I'm betting that would be the Gryffindor relic, which would be poetic because Harry, James and Lily were Gryffindors that were hiding out in Godric's Hollow. I think Peter Pettigrew led Voldemort to the house and was there to collect his wand and the unused relic afterwards - both items that he returned to him since.

Voldemort probably created his 6th Horcrux with the murder of Frank Bryce, the Muggle caretaker that worked for his hated Muggle relatives (father and grandparents). It was stated that Frank had continued to care for the property as an employee of the new wealthy owner. What if that wealthy owner is Lucius Malfoy? He'd been trusted with the diary and the retrieval of the prophesy. Also, Voldemort killed the Riddle's in that house as a teenager, and it served as his hideout before he got his body back so the place has significance for him. He probably hid the Horcrux within it. I think that Ravenclaw's relic was the tiara that Harry saw when he was looking for a hiding place for the Half-blood Prince's potions book within the Room of Reqirement. That would be a fitting hiding place for it since Ravenclaw is credited for designing the ever-moving floor plan at Hogwarts (according to her Famous Witches and Wizards card). Not many people are aware of the location of the room and even Dumbledore wasn't sure how to access it. I think most stumbled upon it accidentally and as it was full of damaged, illegal, or contraband items - those who had used it to hide those objects wouldn't likely share it's location with anyone. Voldemort had time to discover the room as a prefect, then Head Boy, plus he lived at Hogwarts year round. He could've hidden the Horcrux there as a student or during his two visits afterwards when he applied for the Defense Against the Dark Arts teaching post.

Slytherin's locket is probably that "heavy gold locket" that no one could open at #12 Grimmauld Place. I think R.A.B. was Regulus Black, who learned of the Horcrux as a Death Eater and stole it with assistance of his family's house-elf Kreacher. House-elves are supposed to be very powerful creatures with their own brand of magic and Kreacher was extremely loyal to Regulus's mother, so I'd bet that he would've been pleased to help her favorite son. Of course, Regulus could've ordered him to help if he wasn't willing. Regulus took the locket home and was killed before he managed to destroy it. Kreacher may not realize it's true value, but could be ordered by Harry to tell him everything he knows of it, and Regulus. Kreacher was collecting shiny objects in his "nest" and Mundungus has stolen valuable items from the Black House, so it might or might not be there now. I don't know where Hufflepuff's cup is, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is hidden within Hogwarts - perhaps within the Chamber of Secrets.

I sincerely doubt that Harry is going to become immortal. It is what Voldemort wants since he believes that there is nothing worse than death and he is the misguided villian. Nicholas Flammel extended his life to 666 years old by drinking the elixer of life, but risked the well-being of the world by the very existance of the Sorcerer's Stone. I think that Dumbledore has summed it up best when he said "After all, to the well-organized mind, death is but the next great adventure. You know, the Stone was really not such a wonderful thing. As much money and life as you could want! The two things most human beings would choose above all -- the trouble is, humans do have a knack of choosing precisely those things that are worst for them." And the creation of a Horcrux reqires a person be killed, which according to Dumbledore is the ultimate act of evil. So, the paths to immortality are being shown to be dangerous and wrong. Immortality isn't something that Harry even wants; he was willing to die in Book 5, thinking that he would see Sirius again. Dumbledore also said that Voldemort's failure to understand there are things much worse than death has always been his greatest weakness. For all those reasons, I think J.K. Rowling will not have Harry become immortal. While I think she'll have him survive the final battle with Voldemort, I think he'll die in the end. I think Harry will have a good long life and reunite with his loved ones after death, in heaven.

Thanks for being brave and posting your theory. I don't agree with it, but I can understand why you think it makes sense. What do you think of my theories? Thanks for reading my very long answer. Happy New Year!

2006-12-29 16:10:02 · answer #1 · answered by Kami 6 · 4 0

Why Harry is NOT a Horcrux.

First, we either know or have a pretty good idea of what the Horcruxes are.

1. DIARY - destroyed
2. RING - destroyed
3. Slytherin's LOCKET - unknown where & IF destroyed yet (I think it has)
4. Hufflepuff's CUP - unknown whereabouts
5. Nagini - wherever Voldie stashed her
6. Something of Ravenclaw's OR Gryffindor's - unknown What & Where
7. Voldy himself.

That leaves #6 as the big question. It has to be something of Rowena Ravenclaw’s or Godric Gryffindor’s. Harry could be Gryffindor’s heir or descendant, right? Wrong. Jo has confirmed that Harry is not the Gryffindor heir.
Let’s look at the rules of a Horcrux.

Rules of a Horcrux

1.Object must be collectible, as a trophy and chosen with some care
2. Object must have a powerful Magical history
3. Objects that, in themselves, have a certain grandeur

Well, Harry can fit two out of three. He fits more than Nagini. Okay. I give you that one, but we know from book six that it is very likely that Nagini was made a Horcrux almost out of desperation.

To get some more insight on Horcruxes, let’s see why Jo said the sorting hat (another popular Horcrux theory)is not a Horcrux.
"Horcruxes do not draw attention to themselves by singing songs in front of large audiences."

Even though Harry does not call attention to himself, he has a lot of attention on him. I doubt he would make a good Horcrux.

We know that Voldy places a lot of store in a witch or wizard’s blood lines. Harry is basically a half blood, and ol' Voldy wouldn't consider him good enough to hold a part of his soul.

Voldy has tried to kill Harry four times.

1st - SS through Quirrell
2nd - COS through the Basilsk
3rd - GOF at the Cemetery
4th - OOTP at the MOM

Does it make sense that Voldy would spend so much time and effort on trying to kill Harry if he held a piece of his soul? The answer is NO! There is more evidence to prove that Harry is not a Horcrux, than that he is one.

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http://rpccstudent.tripod.com/

2007-01-02 00:54:11 · answer #2 · answered by kellyrv_bsa 5 · 0 1

No.
Horcrux should be a physical thing not just a figure, so it cant be the scar. Besides if Harry was a horcrux, why did Voldemort try to kill him when ever they met, including immediately after he was risen? And just because the prophecy was lost, Voldemort was ready to kill him immediately, remember? JK Rowling said that the last word is "still currently scar" indicating that it may change.And it wouldnt be her style of writing a story, by saying that "Harry became immortal and now has no scar" this would be too fairytal-ish.
Almost immediately after murdering Harry's parents Voldemort moved in to kill Harry, so, I dont think he had the time to create a horcrux. (It involves dividing soul & putting it into something). But you may say that no one was a witness and there is no proof of it but remember, when Harry confronted the dementors, he heard his mother's last words.
Clearly you have thinking-power, but remember to look at the facts first. I dont call myself a very good Harry Potter fan for nothing.
But I have to admit your theory was thought-provoking.
I will give you another thought to ponder upon : I think Dumbledore hadnt told Harry everything, like why Voldemort was, a bit hesistant to kill Lily Potter.It was almost like he was giving her a chance, though he immediately killed James. Another thought is the "gleam of triumph" Harry "thought" he saw in Dumbledore's when he mentioned that Voldemort could touch him, in Goblet of Fire.



A Very Happy New Year to you and everyone.

2006-12-31 06:10:13 · answer #3 · answered by Morningdew 3 · 0 1

The seventh horcrux is most likely something of Gryffindors, whether or not this points directly to Harry is yet to be seen. I personally do not believe that Harry is a horcrux for Voldemort has been too fond of attempting to kill him. Why would he try to destroy his own horcrux? Unless he's unaware of it? It's complex and a very thought provoking question.

Passage from Half-Blood Prince:

"So," said Harry, "the diary's gone, the ring's gone. The cup, the locket, and the snake are still intact, and you think there might be a Horcrux that was once Ravenclaw's or Gryffindor's?"

"An admirably succinct and accurate summary, yes." said Dumbldore, bowing his head.

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I don't think your finishing sentence of "Harry became immortal and now has no scar" is very likely. I doubt J.K. will make Harry live forever, in fact, the chances of his survival are very grim.

2006-12-30 01:02:26 · answer #4 · answered by Jessica H 2 · 0 0

First Book = Voldemort himself

Second Book = The diary

Third Book = The cup

Fourth Book = Nagini

Fifth Book = The locket (if we’re going with the theory that the locket was the one found in Grimmauld Place)

Number Six = The ring

Number Seven = The Seventh Piece of the Puzzle

2006-12-29 23:23:06 · answer #5 · answered by michael aguila 2 · 0 0

I think it's possible. I mean Harry and Voldemort share some similarites such as they can both speak to snakes and that they can see what's going on through each other's eyes ( mainly shown in Order of the Pheonix). Also, every time Harry is near Voldemort (before book 4) Harry's scar starts to hurt. And let's not forget the wands.

2006-12-30 13:34:25 · answer #6 · answered by cinderella48z 3 · 1 1

Now, that's something to ponder on. Geez, you're a thinker. I must admit, after reading HBP, I wondered for months what it would be and thought about the scar but never put too much into it... I heard about the last word thing and was anticipating the arrival of the book even more. After reading this question, I don't know how much longer I can wait for the book!! JK needs to write a little faster!! =D

Happy new Year!!

2006-12-29 23:19:38 · answer #7 · answered by Sarah 4 · 1 0

No...good theory. But j.k. rowling disproved it.

2006-12-30 16:17:59 · answer #8 · answered by K.K. 5 · 0 1

Wow, now that requires some serious thinking.

2006-12-29 23:13:46 · answer #9 · answered by LADY ~ 3 · 1 2

u really put my mind into work..

2006-12-30 01:50:52 · answer #10 · answered by lixia_lixus 2 · 0 2

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