HA HA HA! don't forget Don't forget the incest rape of Lot!
Genesis 19:30-36
"And Lot went up to Zoar, and stayed in the mountains, and his two daughters with him.... Then the firstborn said to the younger, 'Our father is old, and there is not a man on earth to come in to us after the manner of the earth. Come, let us make our father drink wine, and let us lie with him, that we may preserve our family through our father.' So they made their father drink wine that night, and the first-born went in and lay with her father; and he did not know when she lay down or when she arose. And it came about on the morrow, that the first-born said to the younger, 'Behold, I lay last night with my father; let us make him drink wine tonight also; then you go in and lie with him, that we may preserve our family through our father.' So they made their father drink wine that night also, and the younger arose and lay with him; and he did not know when she lay down or when she arose. Thus both the daughters of Lot were with child by their father."
2006-12-29 09:35:30
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answer #1
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answered by Warp 2
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As with most of the bible (all of it) it is a parable. A fable if you will where the "sisters" are not human women but in fact cities (countries) full of "sinners" according to Ezekiel's scattered mind. Much of what is said by Ezekial is clearly the ramblings of what what we today would know to be a mental patient, scizophrenic perhaps. Afterall isnt't this also the guy who claimed to be taken up into the heavens by God's Burning wheel and shown visions of the future? You should also note that there is also a very specific verse in Ezekial that refers to what we now call suicide bombers. Paraphrasing here "God" says that one people will have fire burst forth from their chests and they shall be known in the market place but not known. Something like that I don't have the book in front of me right now.
Like I said the whole book is man made parable - don't take it too seriously or its own contradictions will twist your mind too.
According to the Bible women are just WHORES and regardless of whether they are the mother of the saviour or the wife of the king they are nothing but chattel and worthy only of the dirt under the man's feet.
2006-12-29 10:02:22
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answer #2
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answered by Lee 4
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If you're talking about verse 20, then the often-quoted translation is a bit of a cop-out - literally it is much more sexual in tone. Not so much the "flesh" of asses and the "issue" of horses, as the genitals of asses and the sexual emissions of horses.
The point of the chapter is that Ezekiel is really enjoying laying into the Houses of Israel and Judah for what he sees as their spiritual (and political) adultery with the Assyrians. The names he gives them, Aholah and Aholibah, mean "In her tent" and "My tent is in her". When you consider that "her tent" has the connotation of a brothel, and "My tent" is used to describe the Tabernacle, you can see he's really pulling out the jams here. Go Ezekiel!
2006-12-29 11:57:54
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answer #3
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answered by Anonymous
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This was said because it fits the prophecy and the facts. In the book of Ezekiel chapter 23, the figurative Oholah and Oholibah were described as immoral sisters. The ten-tribe kingdom of Israel was represented by Oholah, whereas Oholibah denoted the two-tribe kingdom of Judah. In discussing these symbolic women, The Watchtower of September 15, 1988, said on page 21:
“For pursuing a more sinful course than her sister [Oholah, or Israel], Oholibah (Judah) suffered national calamity at Babylonian hands in 607 B.C.E. Her children fell by the sword or were led away captive, and she was disgraced among the nations. Like Oholah and Oholibah, Christendom commits spiritual adultery, a sin in the sight of the God she claims to worship. Protestantism, with her many denominations, has defiled herself with the commercial and political powers of the world even more than her elder sister, Roman Catholicism. Thus, Jehovah will see to it that all of Christendom is destroyed.”
Beginning with the Council of Nicaea in 325 C.E., Emperor Constantine fused the pagan Roman state cult with apostate Christianity and became the head of the new Catholic Church. The Roman Catholic Church thus can trace its existence to the fourth century of our Common Era. Protestantism had its start in the Reformation of the 16th century. Hence, as Oholah (Israel) was older than Oholibah (Judah), The Watchtower appropriately called Roman Catholicism the elder sister of Protestantism.
Yet, why can it be said that “Protestantism . . . has defiled herself with the commercial and political powers of the world even more than her elder sister, Roman Catholicism”? Because the facts match the prophecy, which states: “When her sister Oholibah got to see it, then she exercised her sensual desire more ruinously than she, and her prostitution more than the fornication of her sister.”—Ezekiel 23:11.
As parts of Babylon the Great, the world empire of false religion, both Catholicism and Protestantism have been deeply involved with the commercial and political elements of this world. (Revelation 17:1-6; 18:1-19) True, an individual Protestant denomination may have less influence than the powerful Roman Catholic Church. But the many Protestant churches combined outstrip the one Catholic Church in power and influence. For instance, Protestantism exerts great influence in certain prominent industrial countries, with some Protestant clergymen seeking high political office. So this is one way in which Protestantism, with its many denominations, has defiled herself even more than Catholicism.
2006-12-29 09:43:20
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answer #4
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answered by Just So 6
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Ezekiel chapter 23 depicts Samaria (representing the ten-tribe kingdom of Israel) as the prostitute Oholah, the older sister of Oholibah, representing Jerusalem (the kingdom of Judah). The fact that the ten-tribe kingdom established its own centers of worship may be alluded to by the name Oholah, “Her Tent [of Worship].” Her spiritual prostitution began in Egypt and continued in the Promised Land. In later times it involved her currying the favor of the Assyrians and engaging in degrading idolatrous practices, including child sacrifice. For her unfaithfulness to him, Jehovah delivered Oholah (the northern kingdom) into the hands of the Assyrians, her lovers.
Jerusalem’s unfaithfulness to Jehovah is portrayed under the allegory of the prostitute Oholibah. The meaning of the name Oholibah seems to allude to the fact that Jehovah’s tent, or sanctuary, was in her territory. (Compare OHOLAH.) However, instead of appreciating this and taking to heart the punishment that came upon her sister Oholah (Samaria) for unfaithfulness, Oholibah not only continued the record of infidelity begun in Egypt but conducted herself even worse than her sister. She practiced idolatry on a large scale and became politically involved with the Assyrians and the Babylonians. Consequently her former lovers, the Babylonians, were foretold to come against her and make her “a frightful object.”
2006-12-30 10:33:16
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answer #5
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answered by papavero 6
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In the bible, the church or a religious movement is sometimes referred to as a "female". When this verse talks about these two prostitutes, it talks about the CORRUPTED church/religious movement; the one called Oholah (Samaria) sort of "joined" with the evil assyrian army and gave into their ways so that they could be protected from their enemies. The verse talks about how "she lusted after them"....this means that the church completley gave in and surrendured to the assyrians. Then the verse talks about how the warriors "strip her naked......take away her sons....kill her with the sword". The assyrians betrayed samaria and left them to be slaughterd in a battle. The "Son of Man" looks at these churches/religious movements as his "own", but when they turn into these "prostitutes" he turns his sight from them and doesnt offer his protection after so many warnings and 2nd chances that he gave to them
The second sister (church/religious movement) Ohilibah was the same way. She gave into the assyrians and fed on their blessings and riches and surrendered her protection to them. But she did much worse. She also gave into the babylonians and surrendered to them as well. At both of these nation's hands, Ohilibah (Jerusalem) was defeated.
2006-12-29 09:46:51
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answer #6
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answered by JCman2010 3
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sturdy question. God interacts with us in extremely basically one way, it somewhat is thru "covenants". The previous covenant became made by Moses and the guidelines given via God to his chosen human beings. in case you observed those rules to the letter and you'd be saved. This coated offering vegetation and sacrifices on the alters besides as following the different "do not" rules. while Christ got here, he took the region of each and all of the previous rules via laying his soul down for us, for each and all of the sacrifices we'd ever would desire to do for all of our sins and so on. In essence we are saved via his grace or his gracious present of laying down his existence for all and sundry. he's the hot covenant. for this reason the only difficulty we are somewhat required to do now as Christians is to maintain on with Christ, and fulfill his instructions that have been additionally from the father. so which you would be able to in actuality say that our new covenant by Christ is the only settlement that we are presently certain to. And if God, or Christ mentioned it, then those are the settlement info that we would desire to honor and fulfill. we are actually not required to maintain on with the ten commandments, however the commandments that Christ gave are additionally not very different from the originals interior the previous testomony. desire that facilitates. If it doesnt, then ask God with a real heart for know-how specifically in this subject rely, and you gets an answer from Him. I continuously do.
2016-10-19 04:37:50
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answered by Anonymous
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It is a metaphor comparing those who turn away from God to prostitutes, defined as women who turn away from a husband. Bible symbolism often uses a woman to represent people in general. A virgin would represent followers, and a prostitute represents strayers.
2006-12-29 09:36:47
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answer #8
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answered by cruztacean1964 5
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It is not a verse it is a passage and it sounds to me like a couple of loose sisters. Hmm... will have to look into it a bit further and get back to you Bill.
2006-12-29 09:37:09
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answered by Mr. G. 2
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Well, you asked what the verse means, yet you cite 20 of them.
Which is the one that causes to you have questions?
2006-12-29 09:31:06
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answered by Bobby Jim 7
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