No desires, no wants, and no feelings looks like no life to you, is it?
At first, Buddha's 'theory' part of his explanation looks weird. The life is painful, birth is painful (really?) love is painful (Bible said love is great!!) getting sick is painful (I can agree this one) dyeing is painful (yep).
Let's translante it into modern concept this way. Life is painful to most of us, because no matter what you you do to neglect the pain or emptiness of your heart, it's there, so life is basically painful.
What would you do to make your life happy and full? Would you like to be somebody, like someone important? Look around the "someone" important, I don't think they are happy 24/7. What about the small great feeling when you eat delicious food, get a facial, loose 10 lbs and buy a new bikini, help someone in need, get a promotion, etc? Well, those are better feeling than depressed, but its so far away from Nirvana, the complete happiness.
In Buddhist theory, the eight righteous way is the answer for the four truth (that life is painful). Right thinking, right mindfullness, right speech, etc (You can find better English interpretation in many books) This eight way looks confusing, too! What is the right way of thinking? Am I thinking wrong so far?
I'd like to put this 'right' ways in this way: You need to realize you've been living your life as your Ego ordered you to. You need to be REAL you, who is as great as Buddha! How can I make this is true?
As you meditate, aware
I'm not my body,
I'm not the one can be judged by outside factors, (bodyshape, clothing, social status, your friends, your family...)
I'm not my emotions,
...
so, who am I?
One thing to be cautious - since you brought up the karma issue,
as you meditate, be more happy than frown :-) Hope this help you searching the true meaning and value of you!
Just as a tip, concept of nirvana or karma was there in India before the time of Buddha, it's just a fact in life. You spread good energy, you'll get good energy in return, if you spread bad energy, Nirvana will be farther away.
2006-12-29 05:43:56
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answered by The Catalyst 4
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During meditation, if you empty your brain, you will not have any desires, feelings and wants. You were wrong when u said that sadhus get up in the morning to eat something. Some sadhus who live in the Himalayas, are probably around 1000 yrs old. They keep on meditating to reach the Supreme through their astral body. What Lord Buddha want to teach was that with meditation, you can achieve moksha, karma or no karma. I want to bring this up, Lord Buddha was a womaniser before he became and ascetic. He did some bad stuff but achieved moksha because he did meditation. Doing meditation, you can achieve anything. hope this clears your doubt.
2006-12-29 15:51:28
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answered by mspentinum 3
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no desires and not wants does not mean no feeling.
You will be in the world, but not of it (ripping of a biblical phrase).
Buddhism is not nihilism nor is it no-action.
"Does that mean that if you follow theory of Buddha means you don't do anything and just sit at one place and do meditation in order to achieve Nirvana, or there is other way to achieve the same through by living the life at your fullest with happiness and considerable wants and desire!"
That is not what Buddha meant or what following the theory of Buddha will mean.
No, you can not get a life without suffering if you keep you wants and desires.
~ Eric Putkonen
2006-12-29 04:31:47
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answer #3
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answered by Anonymous
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You are misunderstanding the message.
The message is that it's necessary to have some time to think without distractions, or even better, to not think at all.
If you are constantly involved in the karma of your life, than your thoughts can be influenced by your circumstances(karma) and the emotions that go with it.
If you can separate you thoughts from your emotions, in some aspect, than you can better guide your life away from unnecessary suffering.
You have to get involved with your own self so that you can get better involved with the karma of your present circumstances. The Buddha gained enlightenment and proceeded back to civilization. He taught us to meditate and then get involved, meditate and get involved, meditate and get involved....
The yin yang represents both nothingness (the black part) and karma (the white part) creating the whole, being the whole. There is no possibility of separation.
2007-01-01 04:49:59
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answered by Teaim 6
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Karma is a fancy word for conditioning. If I abuse my kids, this will result in negative conditioning and will affect their lives and the way they interact with others and the world (they may abuse their kids, they may use drugs, etc.). 'Karma' lasts beyond a lifetime because, of course, our effects on others last past our death (dysfunctional families take a while to get better). We can overcome any of our negative conditioning by first becoming aware of the negative patterns and then catching ourselves when they arise. This positive or good conditioning (or 'reconditioning') is what is called 'good karma'. And all of this -- negative and good conditioning or karma -- is all based on the concept of a real, psychological self that is unique, individual, and separate from everything else. If the mind were to see that this 'self' is just a concept, then our actions towards others wouldn't be negative and self-centered (and, therefore, we wouldn't negatively condition them by abusing them or cutting them off in traffic -- all of which is negative 'karma' because it conditions them in a negative way). The way that we see that our self is just a concept is to quiet the mind during meditation -- to watch it and let things pop up -- and to go back to the breath or focus on our koan or whatever. When the self is seen as illusory, the result is that one LITERALLY experiences oneself as Everything -- that there's only One thing in the universe and it's YOU (this 'YOU' is the thing that is the experiencer and it's not the illusory individual 'you' that 'you' think you are :) ). This YOU is completely part of the thing that has always been -- the thing that is the substratum of everything and was there before the universe started and is beyond form, imagination, etc. This experience IS nirvana -- birth, death, our individual being -- all are seen as unreal and we literally experience ourselves as this eternal Thing. But these are all words -- needs to be experienced directly.
In terms of mind practice, different paths in buddhism provide different mechanisms. In Zen, the typical mechanism is to do zazen which is something that you do ALL the time -- while working, while eating, while 'sitting'. During sitting zazen, you first watch the breath to gain concentration (joriki) and then you're either given a koan or told just to sit. With this, all of life becomes practice -- you live in this world, you work, you eat, you make love, etc. and you watch as your ego/self interacts with it and see any patterns of 'self' (self-centered goals) and you watch them and let them go and go back to what you're doing. You don't become obsessive -- you instead develop loving kindness for yourself and others and see how much your own self is involved in so many things. Your relationships improve along the way as you realize how much our 'self' is promoted and, when that's chipped away, things get better.
Bottom line: you live and you practice and you try to realize that your real essence is eternal but that EVERYTHING here (individual consciousness, bodies, personalities, others, etc.) all changes and doesn't last and to be attached to it will result in pain because of this.
2006-12-29 04:42:34
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answer #5
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answered by Anonymous
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In all love, As a count of perspective, interior of a definite paradigm all it extremely is experienced is from a Divine messenger and a Divine expression of Cosmic understanding. It concerns no longer the type it takes. to hold this fact interior of and as a greater half to the cognate of the oneness of God and the denial of the self as separate, is a captivating key to a door the seeker needs to open. The message is the main historic of messages. it is not new or is it the unique area of a particular faith. The message isn't ours different than this is located out. It exist no longer as words or good judgment yet in the area of understanding or understanding. reward and peace, All in all, Nony
2016-10-06 04:12:37
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answered by ? 4
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Quite a paradox, how can you eliminate all desire but still wish to achieve nirvana? You want to achieve nirvana but you never will because you continue to want it, which is what you cannot do. How do you know when you have achieved Nirvana if you have purged yourself of all feelings? Does Nirvana feel like the nothingness you have created for youself, or do you transcend the princilples of Buddhism when you reach nirvana?
2006-12-29 04:19:14
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answered by e_schwag 2
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Wants and desires don't lead to happiness, you become happy because when you get what you want, you no longer have desire.
2006-12-29 04:22:46
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answer #8
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answered by Anonymous
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no desires no wants no feelings === DEAD
If you want to live in this world better dont follow those nirvana stuff..Now if all that you want is to be happy forever in life, just google sathguru jaggi vasudev and read his thoughts. Trust me! you will find an answer to your seeking.
2006-12-29 04:53:17
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answered by karty 1
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it's called faith. fnord
2006-12-29 04:12:11
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answered by Anonymous
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