When Jesus says he is the morning star is he saying he is Lucifer?

Question

Revelation 22:16
" I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these thingsfor the churches I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star."

Isaiah 14:12
"How you have fallen from heaven,O star of the morning, son of the dawn!You have been cut down to the earth,You who have weakened the nations!

And the fact that Isaiah says the earth will be defiled by Jesus

24:5 The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant. 24:6 Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth,

Answer 1

The Bright Morning Star goes to the misnomer of "Lucifer", which is an incorrect title for Satan or the Devil taken from the King James Version of Isaiah 14:12. Were it not for this odd transliteration, "Lucifer" would not exist as a term in English, and there would be no confusion on the matter. As it is, we need to be careful, I would suggest, in using the term to describe who the Bible calls "Satan" or "the Devil". Most Christians are onto this, yet still the term "Lucifer" persists. In any case, the "morning star" is the title of Christ throughout the rest of Scripture.

2Pet 1:19 (NIV) And we have the word of the prophets made more certain, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts.

Rev 2:28 (NIV) I will also give him the morning star.

Rev 22:16 (NIV) "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star."

Since it is clear that Jesus is the "Bright Morning Star" (even said so Himself) then how should we understand Isaiah 14:12?

Isa 14:12-15 (NIV) How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! You said in your heart, "I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High." But you are brought down to the grave, to the depths of the pit.

This should be understood as a sardonic title for the "anti-christ" or beast. He claims to be "christ", right? He claims to be Messiah, and has his moment under the sun, but comes to be brought low ultimately. Contrast the real Bright Morning Star: He lives humbly, does not boast, is not arrogant, is submissive to the Father... even unto death. Then the Father raises Him to the highest place; in the morning so to speak.

Mat 23:12 "For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted."

Jesus lives out the gospel: death first, resurrection second. Satan wants it all now, and will go down ultimately. Satan looks good at night, but goes down in flames in the morning. Jesus is in the tomb, but arises in the morning. Do you see the pattern? Who is your life most like? What are we encouraging in others, to follow Christ in the gospel, or to grab all you can now? The difference is as wide as Jesus and Satan.

In any case, "Lucifer" means "morning star", so it should not be used to describe Satan. Jesus is The Morning Star. Satan tries to look like Jesus and supplant Him sometime in the future, perhaps very near future, even claming to be Him. But let us understand the deception and that the true "Morning Star" told us this in advance through His Apostles and Prophets; and told us to "watch out".

2Th 2:3-5 (NAS) Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God. Do you not remember that while I was still with you, I was telling you these things?

A few more verses on the Morning Star, our Jesus Christ:

Nu 24:17 (NIV) "I see him, but not now; I behold him, but not near. A star will come out of Jacob; a sceptre will rise out of Israel..."

Mt 2:2 (NIV) and asked, "Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star in the east and have come to worship him."

Mt 2:7-10 (NIV) Then Herod called the Magi secretly and found out from them the exact time the star had appeared. He sent them to Bethlehem and said, "Go and make a careful search for the child. As soon as you find him, report to me, so that I too may go and worship him." After they had heard the king, they went on their way, and the star they had seen in the east went ahead of them until it stopped over the place where the child was. When they saw the star, they were overjoyed.

Lu 1:76-79 (NIV) [Zechariah concerning John:] "And you, my child, will be called a prophet of the Most High; for you will go on before the Lord to prepare the way for him, to give his people the knowledge of salvation through the forgiveness of their sins, because of the tender mercy of our God, by which the rising sun will come to us from heaven to shine on those living in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the path of peace."

John 1:7-9 (NIV) He [John] came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe. He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light. The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world.

Isa 9:2 (NIV) The people walking in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of the shadow of death a light has dawned.

Mt 4:16 (NIV) "The people living in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of the shadow of death a light has dawned."

Isa 60:1-2 (NIV) "Arise, shine, for your light has come, and the glory of the Lord rises upon you. See, darkness covers the earth and thick darkness is over the peoples, but the Lord rises upon you and his glory appears over you."

John 8:12 (NIV) Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."

Answer 2

Lucifer is the usurper to the throne of G-d in Isaiah (et al). This is why He was cast oout of Heaven and will ultimately be cast to the lake of fire. Let me elaborate a little bit. There is a teaching based on this particualr verse which suggests that between Gen 1:1 and Gen 1:2 an event occurred (there is also another possiblility for this and it relates to Journalism). This event was where Lucifer (an angel) decided that he could and would become G-d (rebellion spirit). In this process there was a major upheaval, and essentially what has come out of it has become a spiritual rivalry (as it were). In Revelations though we see that Yeshua (Jesus) is the overcomer. In fact the Psalms (Psalm 8:3-5)predict that at first He would be a little lower then the angels, taking the role of a servant, and then be crowned with everalsting Glord. Which in effect has happened here. Remember that Satan (Lucifer) is a defeated foe. He is even now flailing around attempting to corrupt everyone using the same tactics that He did with Yeshua following His desert experience. In that temptation, Satan twisted scripture also.

Answer 3

Analogies can be applied to different things. You can say one person eats like a horse and another is as strong as a horse. So God often applies analogies that way. It doesn't mean they are the same being. Also read your qoute Isa 24:5 - The earth is defiled by its inhabitants, not Jesus Christ. They (the inhabitants) have trangressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.
Your exegetical skills are not very good.

Answer 4

It is said that Lucifer was given rule of the earth untill he rebelled.
In the old testament, Lucifer was ruler over the Law.
When Jesus came on the scene, the law was corrupt - rotten to the core. There was not one man on the seats of the Law, that was upright. This is what Isaiah was referring to.

How far thou hast fallen,
O Bright and Shining One.

The Law and the Prophets were taught till John the Baptist, after, the kingdom of the heavens is being preached.

Answer 5

AMDG's response is very thorough, but I thought I might add that the word "Lucifer" was originally seen in the Latin translation of the Bible called the "Vulgate", which was compiled in the early fifth century, about 1200 years prior to the King James translation.

The Bible frequently refers to members of the heavenly host as "stars". Perhaps the euphemism "morning star" is intended simply to denote that these members of the heavenly host, both Satan and Jesus, are brighter and more visible, able to be seen even as the sun has begun to rise. To say that Saddam Hussein and George W Bush are both highly visible world leaders in no way suggests that they are the same persons. Similarly, to decribe both Jesus and Satan as "morning stars" does not mean they are the same persons.

Answer 6

Re-Read, Jesus = the bright morning star The descendant of David
Lucifer=star of the morning.son of the dawn

Two completely different descriptions.

Answer 7

Well, I am also confused about that too, because in Dogma Matt Damon says to Ben Affleck, you sound like the morning star. I've seen what happens to those who start war on God. And, I have been wondering, because there is a chruch outside my town that is the morning star. My younger sibling was heard about it, what goes on there, and she said they have strange way they worship. I don't know what to make out of that.

Answer 8

This is a gross perversion of scripture. Do not believe it. Lucifer was the original "morning star", however after he fell, Jesus became the "Morning Star". The enemies of God's holy scriptures would have us believe otherwise though.

Answer 9

The seven “angels” of the congregations, to whom written messages are delivered, are symbolized by seven stars in the right hand of Christ. (Re 1:16, 20; 2:1; 3:1)







angel of the abyss” called Abaddon is also represented by a star.—Re 9:1, 11





of Isaiah chapter 14, the boastful and ambitious king of Babylon (that is, the Babylonian dynasty of kings represented by Nebuchadnezzar), called the “shining one”




The metaphor of a “star” is used in referring prophetically to the Davidic kings of Judah (Nu 24:17),







The resurrected and exalted Jesus spoke of himself as “the bright morning star” and promised to give “the morning star” to his conquering followers, evidently indicating a sharing with him in his heavenly position and glory. (Re 22:16; 2:26, 28; compare 2Ti 2:12; Re 20:6.)







in a figurative sense and in metaphors or similes to represent persons, as in Joseph’s dream in which his parents were represented by the sun and moon, and his 11 brothers by 11 stars. (Ge 37:9, 10) Job 38:7 parallels “the morning stars” that joyfully cried out at earth’s founding with the angelic “sons of God.

so in isaiah......bible is refering to as king nebuchanezzar.......not satan.......in king james it uses lucifer which never indicated to be satan as many thought of...................ans stars represent people.....not one person

Answer 10

Unless any of these quotes are referring to a literal star, then they are metaphors. The morning star can mean different things to different people in different times.

Answer 11

Lucifer is a Latin translation of a Hebrew word which has nothing whatsoever to do with Satan. Yes, Jesus is saying that He is Lucifer, since Luficer is a generic word, but NOT Satan.