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if universe is created by god, then who created god and who created god creater and so on??????

2006-12-29 02:07:50 · 19 answers · asked by raj p 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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No matter how you try to explain the universe, you run into this problem.

God needs a creator.

The Big Bang needs a trigger, and a pre-bang reality.

And recurring and steady state theories imply that things can go on forever, which we don't think can exist.

So, my advice is "Don't worry about it."

2006-12-29 02:18:42 · answer #1 · answered by Mr. Bad Day 7 · 2 1

First, let's begin with the Biblical answer. Take a look at Rev 22:13; words spoken by God Himself: "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end." God didn't say I have a beginning, He said, I am the beginning. That means that there was nothing before God.

We can further prove that point by bringing out the flaws in the question. I love how GotQuestions.com puts it:

...The question does not even make sense. It is like asking, "What does blue smell like?" Blue is not in the category of things that have odor, so the question itself is flawed. In the same way, God is not in the category of things that are created, or come into existence, or are caused. God is uncaused and uncreated - He simply exists.

Another problem with this question is that if you use it to go further backwards, you could go on forever. "If God created the world and some else created God, and someone else created the someone who created God, and someone else created the someone else who created...." This is actually a problem with many arguments that atheists give, including "the earth came from the Big Bang." Well then, where did the Big Bang come from? Obviously, there's something wrong with these statements because they cannot have definite answers.

As we have found out, the question, "who created God?" is weak. No-one did. Now, comes the matter of proving that, which is actually pretty easy. Let's walk through it step-by-step. For someone to create God, there would have to be someone before God. However, 'before' and 'after' are measures of time. It is necessary for time to exist to allow there to be a 'before.' The Bible says that God created all things, and therefore created time itself. Time came into existance only after God created it; God Himself lives outside of time. If God lives outside of time, He is not a product of time. 'Before' is impossible without time, therefore, there was nothing before God, and no one to create Him.

2006-12-29 12:58:03 · answer #2 · answered by Oksana 2 · 0 0

Turtles, all the way down. If such an limitless God exists, the theory that he replaced into "created" is a doubtlessly very incorrect one. A God that created *each and every thing* collectively with each and every length (+time) could have not got any beginning up or end - as a result there is genuinely no way of determining if he replaced into "consistently there" or if "there is something above him". yet regardless of if there's a greater hierarchy (which many faiths disagree with) the greater beneficial being(s) could technically no longer be God's "author" with the aid of fact God allegedly created the strategies of causality. with the purpose to allege that God has a author could be to denounce maximum theists' definition of what God is - countless - with the aid of fact by employing definition a creation is finite.

2016-10-06 04:07:14 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

If everything needs a creator, then who or what created God?



This question is logically problematic. If everything needs a creator, than no matter what exists, it must have been created. Furthermore, to be created means that someone or something had to create it. But then, who created the creator and so on? Logically, this would mean there would be an infinite regression of creators and we would never be able to find the first, uncaused cause since, by definition (the questions says that "everything needs a creator") there wouldn't be any uncaused cause. This would mean that the sequence of creations is eternal. But, if it exists that there is an eternal regression of creators, then who created the infinite regression of creators? Remember, the question presupposes that all things need a creator -- even the eternal sequence of creators -- which becomes logically absurd. Furthermore, if there is an eternal regression of creators that are eternal, then the question is not answered. In fact, it cannot be answered since it weakness is that "all things need a creator." Of course, this only begs the question in that how did the process begin? Therefore, the question only raises the same problem it asks and it is a question that, by its own design, cannot be answered. Therefore, it is invalid.
The question is better phrased as a statement: "Everything that has come into existence, was brought into existence by something else." This is a more logical statement and is not wrought with the difficulties of the initial question. In the revised statement "Everything that has come into existence," implies that the thing that "has come into existence" did not already exist. If it did not already exist but then came into existence, then something had to bring it into existence because something that does not exist cannot bring itself into existence (a logical absolute). This pushes the regression of creators back to what we would call the theoretical "uncaused cause" since there cannot be an infinite regression of creators as discussed above and since in infinite number of creators would mean there was an infinite number of creations and created things including things that cannot be destroyed since they would constitute things that exist. If that is so, then the universe would have had an infinite number of created things in it and it would be full. But it is not full. Therefore, there has not been an infinite regression of creations.
By definition, the Christian God never came into existence; that is, He is the uncaused cause (Psalm 90:2). He was always in existence and He is the one who created space, time, and matter. This means that the Christian God is the uncaused cause and is the ultimate creator. This eliminates the infinite regression problem.
But some may ask, "But who created God?" But the answer is that by definition He is not created; He is eternal. He is the One who brought time, space, and matter into existence. Since the concept of causality deals with space, time, and matter, and since God is one who brought space, time, and matter into existence, the concept of causality does not apply to God since it is something related to the reality of space, time, and matter. Since God is before space, time, and matter, the issue of causality does not apply to Him.

2006-12-29 02:11:26 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

nobody created God. God was always there. Our finite human minds cannot comprehend eternity but it is there. God has always been in being. Before you were born, before your mother was born even, he knew that you would ask this question. God is the past, the present, and the future. He is out of time. The problem is, the human mind has too much trouble comprehending it so we choose to ignore it and pretend that someone did make God, but no one did.

2006-12-29 02:12:21 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

At some point, a Creator must have come from nothing, proving that very complex entities can come about without a creator or designer.

Even if God has always been, this shows that a creator was not needed for him to exist and, thus, for something very complex to exist.

2006-12-29 02:10:58 · answer #6 · answered by Phoenix, Wise Guru 7 · 1 0

Since all we can perceive are related to time, beginnings and ends, we know nothing of infinity or timelessness than giving a name to it.

God is eternal. The concept cannot be grasped by mortal man.

Others believe in "the big bang". What does than mean? Where did it come from?
We always have to have a "starting point" and and "end". It's all we know.

2006-12-29 02:18:53 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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2006-12-29 02:10:55 · answer #8 · answered by Reisnoh 4 · 0 0

"So perfect and comprehensive is His creation that no mind nor heart, however keen or pure, can ever grasp the nature of the most insignificant of His creatures; much less fathom the mystery of Him Who is the Day Star of Truth, Who is the invisible and unknowable Essence. The conceptions of the devoutest of mystics, the attainments of the most accomplished amongst men, the highest praise which human tongue or pen can render are all the product of man's finite mind and are conditioned by its limitations. Ten thousand Prophets, each a Moses, are thunderstruck upon the Sinai of their search at His forbidding voice, 'Thou shalt never behold Me!'; whilst a myriad Messengers, each as great as Jesus, stand dismayed upon their heavenly thrones by the indiction, 'Mine Essence thou shalt never apprehend!' From time immemorial He hath been veiled in the ineffable sanctity of His exalted Self, and will everlastingly continue to be wrapt in the impenetrable mystery of His unknowable Essence. Every attempt to attain to an understanding of His inaccessible Reality hath ended in complete bewilderment, and every effort to approach His exalted Self and envisage His Essence hath resulted in hopelessness and failure." -Baha'u'llah

2006-12-29 02:51:56 · answer #9 · answered by Linell 3 · 0 0

No one created God, God is eternal. And remember that argument can not be applied to the universe.

2006-12-29 02:10:36 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

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