Why does Christendom teach congregants to keep in Memorial the birth of Christ, which he did not say to keep,?

Question

and on a day that does not match his birthday, while denying them the knowledge of what day Christ did say to keep in Memorial?

Regardless of what one may or may not think of Christmas, the fact is that Christ said to keep in Memorial the day of the Last Supper. This date has not been lost over the centuries, as the Jews continue to observe it. Are the Jews more Christian than Christians? Why are so many Christians denied this knowledge, something that came directly from Christ, himself? Do they think it is less important than man made holidays?

He Christ ever say not to observe his birthday? No, but than do you accept that excuse from your children when they do something they know they shouldn't be doing, of which you didn't specifically say not to?

Also, how does that relate to the denial of knowledge?

Nothing wrong with doing something minor as observaing a birthday. Moses was not allowed into the Promise Land because of just one sin. The question is whether it was what he did, or did he assume that it was a minor thing and wouldn't count compared to all the good he did? Did he assume to be equal to God and know what is a forgivable sin and what is not?

Answer 1

Papa Bear -

Not all Christians observe Christmas. I don't. Neither do I observe Easter. Both are Christianised (and frankly, commercialised) pagan festivals, which Christians are not commanded to observe anywhere in the Bible. However, this is a relatively minor issue. If a Christian wants to observe Christ's birth or His death & resurrection on a particular day, in a way glorifying to God (sans pagan customs), that is between him and His Lord. Romans 14:5 & 6, although referring to the Sabbath in it's original context, could arguably be re - applied to this argument.

There is no Biblical evidence to suggest that the last supper memorial was to be observed on a yearly basis, in fact, the impression given by Paul's writing in 1 Cor. 11:17 - 34 strongly suggests that this was an event which happened often, in the context of a fellowship meal. The Lord's word quoted by Paul in verse 25 supports this: "This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as OFTEN as you drink it, in remembrance of Me".

How could Jews who observe Passover (and not the Lord's supper) be more Christian than Christians when (for the most part) they reject Christ as Messiah ? What a ludicrous statement to make, Papa Bear. Is this the result of Watchtower teaching ? Jesus is the fulfillment of the Passover, therefore we remember His perfect sacrifice for our sins, not the type.

Furthermore, in regard to the commandment to keep in memorial the day of the last supper, I'm afraid Papa Bear, that you (as a JW) don't practice what you preach. According to Jehovah - Witness teaching, any witness who is not one of the 144,000 so - called "anointed class" of believer's cannot actually partake in the symbolic emblems of Christ's broken body & shed blood, as commanded by the Lord Jesus (Mark 14:22 -24, 1 Cor. 11:23 - 26. Please note in particular verse 26; the believer is commanded to partake in both the bread & cup). I assume that you are not one of the 144,000 ? According to Watchtower tradition, due to the influence of their false teaching regarding two classes of "Christians", you disobey a direct command of the Lord.

The words "gnat" & "camel" come to mind...

May God be gracious to you.

Answer 2

Actually Christ said to do this often in reference to the Last Supper which was at Passover. Most Churches observe this With Communion about once a month. It's not that Christians have been denied this knowledge it just that many don't bother to read their Bible or attend services regularly but still want to pretend their pious Christians.
As far as Christmas is concerned, this was started by the Catholic church to get pagans to convert back during the Dark Ages.

Answer 3

Curious thought.

I think the beginnings of Christmas were mostly appropriate, to overcome a pagan celebration and to glorify Christ, however I agree that Christmas has become a ridiculous out of control holiday rather than a celebration of the Christ child and his life and death. Perhaps choosing this holiday was somewhat akin to making an idol and that has contributed to it spiraling out of control.

Our church celebrates the Lord's supper on Christmas Eve to help put things in perspective which brings to memory the last supper that you mentioned and the adult Christ.

It would be difficult to avoid all the hoopla of the holiday, for me I try to tell my children the symbolism of the evergreen and the lights and the candy cane so that the holiday is more about Christ than santa (which is an acronym for satan curiously).

... whew. Finished with another ramling entry that helped clear my mind.

Answer 4

Good question and comments. I can tell you have read scripture. Most Christians do not, they follow their church doctrine and even then add and take away from it as they please.

I am pagan, my religion is Wicca. I did spend 25 plus years as a preacher and studied the bible daily.

I say modern Christians are just a pagan as I am but refuse to admit it. They are pagan because of their beleifs and holy days are pagan.

In the old Testement God forbid the Isrealites from taking pagan celebrations and making it their own, but modern Christians feel this is just fine.

Bottom line is they serve traditions of man for doctrine and I think you know what Jesus said about this.

Birthday celebrations in themselves is pagan. The only example we have in the New Testement of someone celebrating a birthday is when John lost his head. this alone should teach Christians that the mere celebrating of one's birthday is not acceptable to God. Much less taking a pagan god's birthday and attaching it to Jesus.

How would they feel if their friends and relatives celebrated their birthday on Hitler's birthday and told them it does not matter that day was originally Hitler's birthday and they know it, but they want to honor them on Hitler's birthday. They would not like it. But they expect God to accept it from them.

Answer 5

The church and not the Bible get to rule on matters like this. Both the church and the Bible confirm this.

You obviously believe the Bible is the authority here, yet the Bible never claims to be.

How do you explain that?

Regarding Moses, there's another underlying reason why God didn't allow him to lead the Isaelites across the Jordan and into the Promised Land.

The Promised Land is a metaphor for heaven. Moses and his law never got anyone in there, either.

Neither does the Bible.

That power is reserved to Christ, and the one, holy, Catholic, and apostolic church he personally founded, and still heads.

Answer 6

>>>Why does Christendom teach congregants to keep in Memorial the birth of Christ, which he did not say to keep,?>>>

Did Christ ever specifically tell us NOT to celebrate His birth?

I do know that He did commission His Church on earth with the authority to set disciplinary rules and practices -- and that His Church has decided to celebrate His birth.

So, because of that, we do have His blessing to celebrate His birth.

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Answer 7

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Answer 8

Church wanted to shift attention from Pagan festival of Winter Solstice (actual day of Christ's birth was lost)

Then it became tradition.

Answer 9

there's nothing wrong in remembering Christ's birth and celebrating it. i doubt anyone will be going to hell with that intention.

Answer 10

This was all hashed through last week. Surely you are not just discovering this?