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My min. doberman is AKC registered but I don't have his papers.Is there a DNA test to prove he is pureblooded&

2006-12-28 06:38:06 · 18 answers · asked by rosebud 1 in Pets Dogs

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Well I am sure A breeder could tell but the only true way is to have the papers. This will tell where he comes from and his family tree. If you reg. him with your name you can contact AKC and get a copy of his papers. Papers are not really good for that much unless you are showing. You know he is prue-breed who cares what others think he is you baby and you love him!!

2006-12-28 06:42:43 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

No. If he is AKC reg, then contat the AKC (you can go to the website for them) and fill out a form for lost papers. If the dog was sold with "papers to follow" or some other such story then you are likely out of luck. The breeder would have had to register the puppy and then transfer ownership to you (the AKC form they give you and you must fill out and return with your processing fee). If you don't take that step and get the papers to them, they can't register the dog. Likewise if you never got the forms from the breeder then you can't register the dog. I have to be honest-I have never heard of a min Doberman. There is a dog called a Miniature Pincher, but it is not related to a Doberman-it is it's own breed.

2006-12-28 15:44:30 · answer #2 · answered by VAgirl 5 · 0 1

AKC doesn't guarantee if its purebred or the quallity. What the heck is a min dobe? Do you mean a min pin? AKC is a pedigree of who was the parents. The DNA test won't prove if its purebred but rather who the parents were.

AKC Registration and Quality

"There is a widely held belief that "AKC" or "AKC papers" guarantee the quality of a dog. This is not the case. AKC is a registry body. A registration certificate identifies the dog as the offspring of a known sire and dam, born on a known date. It in no way indicates the quality or state of health of the dog. Quality in the sense of "show quality" is determined by many factors including the dog's health, physical condition, ability to move and appearance. Breeders breeding show stock are trying to produce animals that closely resemble the description of perfection described in the breed standard. Many people breed their dogs with no concern for the qualitative demands of the breed standard. When this occurs repeatedly over several generations, the animals, while still purebred, can be of extremely low quality. Before buying a dog, you should investigate the dog's parentage (including titles, DNA and pedigree information), the breeder's breeding practices, the breed standard, and the genetic tests recommended by the Parent Club for the breed."

2006-12-28 14:44:39 · answer #3 · answered by crazyforboxers 3 · 0 2

You need to have the AKC papers in order to prove parentage on your dog. AKC does require DNA samples to be submitted for frequently used dogs and it can help prove that the dogs on the papers are indeed your dogs parents. With that being said, you could still not have a purebred dog if you have a irresponsible breeder, backyard breeder or puppy mill.If you are dealing with any of the new registries, good luck-those are just shames to help dishonest people sell dogs.

I would first contact the breeder. If they failed to register the litter, you're out of luck. Also is there a chance that the breeder withheld the papers until you fulfill the contract by altering your dog?

2006-12-28 14:50:16 · answer #4 · answered by horsenhound 3 · 1 1

I think you mean a Min pin (Miniature Pinscher). They are not Miniature Dobermans...totally different breed/not related at all.

Why don't you have his papers if he is registered? Have you ever had his papers? You can get "lost" papers replaced from AKC if you know his number. You can have him DNA tested, but both of his parents must have their DNA on record with AKC. If they were not DNA tested, then I don't think there is any way to prove except by the look of him (if he is breed standard).

Even though he is AKC registered, and because you can not prove who his parents are, you really should not attempt to breed him. You may accidental breed him with his sister/aunt/or other relation without even realizing it.

2006-12-28 14:51:24 · answer #5 · answered by Suzie Q 4 · 2 1

AKC does not have a "Miniature Doberman" on their recognized breeds list. Did you mean a Miniature Pinscher"?

If your dog is AKC registered, and you actually PAID money to get the dog...you should demand papers from the breeder or at least a form from him/her that allows you to request the proper documentation from AKC itself.

2006-12-29 17:19:55 · answer #6 · answered by Wags 2 · 0 0

Contact the AKC and the original breeder about the papers.

However, purebred and papers aren't really necessary unless you are planning on showing the dog. A dog that isn't being shown (or hasn't been a champion) shouldn't be bred, no matter how great his bloodline is. And someone who doesn't know that there is not such thing as a mini dobie shouldn't be breeding either, so fix him and just allow him to be a pet, papers or not. : )

2006-12-28 14:47:36 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

The "miniature doberman" is not even an AKC recognized breed - I assume you are talking about a "miniature pinscher" -- There is not a DNA test to prove his bloodline. If you purchased an AKC dog without obtaining the papers, shame on you. You may be able to solicit the AKC, but without proof of ownership and your name on the papers (which you could never have signed if they were never in your possession), you probably won't have much luck.

2006-12-28 14:48:40 · answer #8 · answered by GSDotch 3 · 2 2

The breeder should have gave you his papers. Why does it matter anyway? If you want to breed him then you should have gotten breeder rights (more papers) otherwise the line is still worthless....with your vocab you shouldn't be breeding anyway....(did you mean purebred? Did you mean min pin? Because otherwise the dog isn't registered....min doberman isn't a breed)

If the breeder didn't give you anything...then he is either

1) not registered
2) a BYB puppy
3) Mill puppy

2006-12-28 14:54:45 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

You might be able do DNA testing, but you'd have to do it done on the pup and both parents. Did you not get the papers from the breeder or did you lose them?

BTW, it is not a miniature doberman, it's a miniature pinscher / minpin. There is no such thing as a "miniature doberman".

2006-12-28 14:45:12 · answer #10 · answered by Pam 6 · 1 2

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