Clarification on the bible read details?

Question

I know many thingss are taken out of context in the bible but i would like to see what people thought about this one.
Luke 14:25-31
A large crowd was foillowing jesus. He turned and said to them,"If you want to be my deciple, you must hate everyone else by comparison.-your father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters-yes even your own life. Otherwise you, cannot be my disciple. And if you do not carry your own cross and follow me, you cannot bee my disciple. But dont begin until you count the cost. For who would begin construction of a building without first caluclating the cost to see if there is enough money to finish it? Otherwise, you might complete only the foundation, before running out of money, and then everyone will laugh at you.They would say, 'There's the personal who started that building and couldnt afford to finish it!'

Answer 1

And there went great multitudes with him: and he turned, and said unto them (Luk 14:25),

Having left the house, the people were outside waiting for Him. At this point great multitudes of people were attracted to Him and were following Him and listening to Him. And He is on His way towards Jerusalem, but they think He is on His way towards Jerusalem in order to overthrow the Roman government and to establish and set up His kingdom. And that is why they are being attracted. That is why the multitude is coming. They think that the kingdom is going to come now immediately, and James and John are saying, "Lord, can I sit on the right and left hand?" and all of this jockeying for position was going on. But they don't understand. He is not going to Jerusalem to overthrow the Roman government. He is going to Jerusalem to be put on a cross.

You cannot follow Christ just because it is a popular movement. There is a shallowness and a danger to popular spiritual movements. The Jesus Movement was sadly weakened by the endeavors to commercialize the thing and to popularize the thing. And the Jesus Movement parades and banners were fade aspects.

In following Christ, you just don't get on the bandwagon. It is just not joining because everybody is doing it, or it is the in thing to do. This was at that time the in thing. Multitudes were following Him. And because there is a danger in this, He turns to the multitudes and He becomes extremely severe in His words. He is really more severe than I would like Him to be, for He said,

If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple (Luk 14:26).

I am not going to be popular, being acclaimed as king. I am going to be crucified. There is a real cost if you are going to come after Me. You better count the cost. You better measure it.

Now, don't misunderstand Jesus and think that I have got to hate my father, and my mother, because that is just the opposite of what the gospel teaches. The fruit of the Spirit is love. And if say I love God and hate my brother, I am a liar and the truth is not in me. How can I love God who I haven't seen and hate my brother who I have seen? Then what does Jesus mean, unless you hate your father, mother, brothers and so forth? That is in the language a comparative.

Your love for Jesus Christ must be supreme. It must be greater than your love for your family, your home or yourself, because it may cost you all of these things to follow Jesus Christ. And for many of those people it did cost all those things. Following Christ did cost some of them their families, their family relationships. For they were ostracized by their families when they made their commitment to Jesus Christ. And the same is true today. Many people have found it quite costly to follow Jesus Christ. It cost them their family relationships. But Jesus said if you are not willing to give up these family relationships, you can't really be My disciple. You have got to love Me more than you love any other relationship that you have. Your love for Me must be supreme and every other love must be subservient to your love for Me.

Answer 2

Jesus never used the word "hate." A disciple is one who follows Jesus. Sometimes a disciple must go against the wishes of parents or family members to do what they know is the right thing to do. Many of the early Christians, about to die for their faith in Jesus, were begged by family members to denounce Jesus. Today there are many people who follow Jesus as Priests, Nuns, ministers, missionaries, who have done so at great cost - of not having the support of family or friends. This is a cross to carry.
Often times, it is difficult to do the right thing. This is a cross. Especially when everyone else is doing the opposite.
Planning ahead, making sure we are about to to the right thing for the right reason makes sense. That is where the gifts of wisdom and understanding and counsel come in. The building we are about to build could also be our life plan. What we hope to do and how we hope to do it. That is why is it important to take the time and receive the help and education needed before embarking on a life of service.

Answer 3

Not a good translation. The word "miseo" also carries with it the meaning of "love less". This is in accordance to the First Commandment where God say that we are to love God ABOVE all things.

Being a disciple of Jesus is not cheap. It means turning our lives over to God and not allowing even our own fleshly desires to rule us. This is why Jesus also said:

Matt 7:13-14

13 "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
(from New International Version)


John 12:24-26
25 The man who loves his life will lose it, while the man who hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life. 26 Whoever serves me must follow me; and where I am, my servant also will be. My Father will honor the one who serves me.
(from New International Version)

Answer 4

Jesus was not accepted even in his home town, they were not sure about him. Did he love them still, yes, he totally loved them, and didn't turn his back on them. This is why when these verses are taken out of context, it is just silly. He meant, that if your family rejects you for believing and following him, to not risk their own soul, just to appease the family. Don't up and forget about God, and their eternal security, because it upsets daddy, for instance. It is, or can be, a big cross to bear. In society, it can be a big cross to bear. Many, have stood strong, with their family disaproving , but kept strong to their beliefs. This can be a witness to the family, in the long run. How do I know, i have seen proof of this. There is a cost to count, when following Jesus, bottom line. It is not always an easy walk. There are things you deny yourself, because of being obedient, and knowing there is the greater good ahead. Delayed gratification, in a way.

Answer 5

He in my interpretation is talking about the personal cost of being a Christian or a follower of Jesus...

He is saying that you must put Him, Jesus, 1st, above all others, including yourself and that if you truly want to be a follower of Jesus that this in itself will be a cross to bear for you because you will be harshly criticized by those that do not follow Jesus and that you must weigh this decision very carefully and understand the earthly ramifications.

Also, do not become a believer lightly. He would rather have followers that are 500% into the process then a weaker minded individual that would flake out when things got rough.

I think in our times it means... be careful what you start, jusdge accordingly the ramifications of your decisions, and don't follow anything bilndly, but if you are going to follow someone or something, it is better to follow with all that you are or not at all.

The road to heaven is narrow but fully laid out and explained for us. We are given an instruction manual and it is our choice to follow or not.

Answer 6

What translation are you quoting from here? That could be some of your problem. The essence of what He is saying is that you shouldn't begin the Christian life without first taking into consideration that you are going to have pay a big price to do so. We Christians have often said that salvation is free - and in one sense it is, because Jesus paid the price of suffereing and dying on the cross. But to live a life with God in Christ means loving Him more than anyone else, and many times we have to make difficult decisions. Decisions to live the way He commands in the face of persecution - even from loved ones. He is saying that no one should expect it to be a bed of roses. To allow Christ to live in you and through you means "crucifying" your own self will and desires to do what He wants.

This is why many choose to mock the followers of Christ, because they are not willing to pay this price.

Answer 7

This is a question of putting God first before all other things. One of first rules of interpretting the Scriptures is that one needs to take it in context of the whole Bible, not just the immediate surroundings. If you do that, you'll know that the word "hate" here is more than how we commonly use it. It's dealing more with putting our family below God (but there is plenty of scriptural evidence that God wants us to love them). Verse 27 maens it is in our suffering that we take on the priestly role proper to every follower of Christ. We offer up our own sacrifice not just for ourselves but for others as well. This is our duty as part of the royal priesthood.

Answer 8

Christ is illustrating where your priorities must be. Is your allegiance to your family over Christ? He isn't instructing to hate, but if you become a disciple - follower of Jesus, you follow him first. There is a cost, I struggle with this within my own family.

Answer 9

To hate is to love less. Jesus was saying that we must love Him more than our earthly family.

Defination for this use of the word hate..From a primary word by extension to love less: - hate

It is of great importance that anyone who seeks salvation through acceptance of Jesus as their personal Savior knows exactly what is expected of them by Jesus. They must be willing to sacrifice their wants for what Jesus wants of them.

They must accept and be willing to love Him more than their own family first. then their family comes in next. This is something that is a learned process that takes place with your walk with the Lord thorughout your life.

That is why studying of God's word daily is inparative in your daily walk with the Lord. How can you know what is expected of you as a Christian if you dont' study God's word which tells you all you need to know, and through this study, helps you transform your ways into God's rightous ways. Praise the Lord!!

Answer 10

He doesn't mean to hate your family, He is saying He must take priority over them. You are supposed to love Him with ALL your heart, soul, mind and strength. And it won't be easy to be a follower of Him. Make sure you realize what it will entail to be a true follower of Christ before you make the commitment.