What does verse 19 say?
Proverbs 6
16These six things the Lord hates, indeed, seven are an abomination to Him:
17A proud look [the spirit that makes one overestimate himself and underestimate others], a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,(D)
18A heart that manufactures wicked thoughts and plans, feet that are swift in running to evil,
19A false witness who breathes out lies [even under oath], and he who sows discord among his brethren.
I thought he was supposed to hate the sin and not the sinner. Looks like he hates the sinner here.
2006-12-28 01:41:09 · 16 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Jehovah can demonstrate a principled love even while executing an unrepentant sinner.
(Hebrews 12:6) Whom Jehovah loves he disciplines; in fact, he scourges every one whom he receives as a son.
Jehovah's Witnesses preach a message of "good news", and leave all judging for Jehovah and Jesus to perform "on the last day".
(Acts 10:36,42) Declare to them the good news of peace through Jesus Christ: this One is Lord of all others. ...this is the One decreed by God to be judge of the living and the dead
(John 11:23-25) Jesus said to her: “Your brother will rise.” 24 Martha said to him: “I know he will rise in the resurrection on the last day.” 25 Jesus said to her: “I am the resurrection and the life.
(John 12:48-49) The word that I [Jesus] have spoken is what will judge [a person] in the last day; 49 because I have not spoken out of my own impulse, but the Father himself who sent me has given me a commandment
(John 8:16) if I do judge, my judgment is truthful, because I am not alone, but the Father who sent me is with me
(Matthew 12:36) They will render an account concerning it on Judgment Day
(John 5:22,27-30) [The Father] has committed all the judging to the Son... 27 And he has given him authority to do judging, because Son of man he is. 28 Do not marvel at this, because the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice 29 and come out... I judge; and the judgment that I render is righteous, because I seek, not my own will, but the will of him that sent me.
(Acts 17:30-31) God has overlooked the times of such ignorance, yet now he is telling mankind that they should all everywhere repent. 31 Because he has set a day in which he purposes to judge the inhabited earth in righteousness by a man [Jesus] whom he has appointed
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2006-12-28 08:27:45 · answer #1 · answered by achtung_heiss 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
i'm an Atheist, so my respond comes from my non secular upbringing and scholarly artwork, no longer my very own concept on the priority. a controversy it is presented is that as people have been created with loose will there particularly isn't any different determination for a god that loves them yet to furnish an determination for people who freely p.c. to hate him. you could say "loose will or no longer" yet loose will is a important component of many Christian faiths, as though there became no loose will, then there could be no guilt, no sin, and no want for commandments, a savior, or something modern-day in Christianity. evaluate the alternative: i'm evil and packed with hate, spend my existence in sin and hate for god and his creation. I consciously reject god and desire no longer something to do with him. Then I die. by surprise i'm floating in clouds, blissfully worshipping the source of all my hatred for the time of existence. How might desire to this have got here approximately? the only way could be for god to have erased MY character and replaced it with another extra suitable for his purposes. might desire to he? If all-powerful, useful. might he be "good" if he engaged in such brainwashing? it is so which you would be able to p.c..
2016-11-24 19:55:30 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
You are correct. The notion that God loves everyone unconditionally is a false one perpetrated by well-meaning evangelists who think they can bribe people into becoming a Christian.
The fact is that the bible makes it clear man is ate-up with sin and God's wrath is building against us. The love is this: that he does want us to repent of our sins and seek him through Jesus, which is why he withholds his wrath to give us that opportunity.
"God is love" is half a gospel. I'm sorry for you and others that people keep repeating that mantra. I think there is going to be more than a few confused people on judgement day who never repented but bought the "God just wants me to be happy" line and attended church most Sundays.
2006-12-28 01:46:59 · answer #3 · answered by MithrilHawk 4 · 3⤊ 0⤋
Now you're catching on.
Nowhere in the Bible does it say God hates the sin but loves the sinner.
Psalm 5:5
The boastful shall not stand in Your sight;
You hate all workers of iniquity.
2006-12-28 01:55:25 · answer #4 · answered by Hope 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
HE hates the "sins". It is always possible for the sinner to repent and become a Christian (CHILD of GOD). Remember that we are living under the New Testament now, not the Old Testament. GOD is GOOD!!
Eds
2006-12-28 01:47:47 · answer #5 · answered by Eds 7 · 3⤊ 1⤋
God didn't write the Bible, men did...being an Atheist, I thought you would have known that.
You do, you ignore it because the flaws in the Bible is the only source of criticisms you guys can seem to come up with.
2006-12-28 02:01:33 · answer #6 · answered by James P 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
The universalists repeatedly say things like, "God loves us all so much that He will save us all"; or "He hates the sin, but loves the sinner"; or "God is love, and will not send anyone to hell."
Universalists teach that God is so full of love, that He simply cannot send anyone to eternal hell fire. It is against His infinite love. They want God to forgive all, even those who openly reject Him and die cursing God.
I must admit, it is nice to think of God's love being so infinitely great that all will ultimately be saved. Hell is a terrible place and I don't want anyone to go there. But it does not matter what I think. It matters what the Bible says.
God is love (1 John 4:8), but God also punishes the sinner and hates all who do iniquity. God is not one sided. He is not simply an infinitely loving God. He is also infinitely just. He must deal with sin. He must punish the sinner.
In the truth of God's word, we find that the Lord has provided one way by which we may be saved. That single way is through Jesus' sacrifice. For all who trust in Him, salvation will come. But to those who turn away, God's wrath abides upon them: "He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him," (John 3:36).
Does God hate anyone?
Does God hate anyone? The answer is yes.
Psalm 5:5, "The boastful shall not stand before Thine eyes; Thou dost hate all who do iniquity,"
Psalm 11:5, "The Lord tests the righteous and the wicked, and the one who loves violence His soul hates."
Lev. 20:23, "Moreover, you shall not follow the customs of the nation which I shall drive out before you, for they did all these things, and therefore I have abhorred them."
Prov. 6:16-19, "There are six things which the Lord hates, yes, seven which are an abomination to Him: 17 Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 A heart that devises wicked plans, feet that run rapidly to evil,
19 A false witness who utters lies, and one who spreads strife among brothers."
Hosea 9:15, "All their evil is at Gilgal; indeed, I came to hate them there! Because of the wickedness of their deeds I will drive them out of My house! I will love them no more; All their princes are rebels."
Are these verses hard to read? Do they make you feel uncomfortable? They should. God hates sin. But, He does not punish sin. He punishes the sinner. Sin cannot be tied up and thrown into a fire. It cannot be put in a box or glued to a stick. It is rebellion. It is rebellion in the heart. It is breaking God's Law. Sin occurs inside the heart and mind of people. Therefore, God must punish the sinner. Why? Because He is both Holy and Just and the person who sins offends God. God's Holy and Just character will not allow Him to ignore this offense. Why?....
God's Law is Perfect
When God said, "Let there be light," it happened. When He commanded that the oceans be, they came into existence. God's word is powerful. What He says is never futile, empty, or without power.
The Law is a reflection of God's character. It is pure and perfect. It is powerful. The Ten Commandments reflect God's holiness and justice. These commandments are not without punishments. A law without consequences is only an empty slogan.
To sin is to break God's Law and offend His character. To sin means to challenge His character and authority. It means you go against His word. But God is not a liar. His word is true. He has said He will punish the lawbreaker.
But, praise be to God, that while we were yet sinners, Jesus died for us (Rom. 5:6). There is no way we can appease God. That is why God became one of us (John 1:1,14; Heb. 2:17), to take our place and become sin on our behalf (2 Cor. 5:21). Therefore, people have two options:
Trust Jesus, God in flesh, as your savior and put your faith in the sacrifice that He made on the cross and in nothing you do.
Reject the cross and let the penalty of the Law fall upon you.
Either God pays, or you do -- forever. Which will it be?
"For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins," (Heb. 10:26). If there is no sacrifice available for you, then God's wrath abides upon you because He hates sin and your sin is not removed (John 3:36). Trust Jesus alone or the wrath of God will abide upon you forever.
Conclusion
The sobering fact is that God is so holy and righteous that He hates the sinner (Psalm 5:5; Lev. 20:23; Prov. 6:16-19; Hos. 9:15). Some say that we should say that God only hates the sin but loves the sinner. But, the above scriptures speak contrary to that. But it is also true that He is love (1 John 4:8). It is better to accept the love of God found in Jesus than to reject it and suffer His wrath.
2006-12-28 01:44:53 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 1⤋
Your Bible quote answers your own questions. "These six THINGS the Lord hates." It says THINGS, not people.
Therefore, God loves the sinner and hates the sin.
(Also, I don't intend to yell. I capitalized THINGS for emphasis because Yahoo answers doesn't let you italicise words)
2006-12-28 02:07:32 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋
That's the made up nonsense God you are quoting, not the real God.
love and blessings Don
2006-12-28 01:45:10 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
I see hatred for elements for the human character, not people themselve.
It should be noted that in different versions of the Bible, 'hates' is retranslated to say 'detests'.
2006-12-28 01:45:15 · answer #10 · answered by Tofu Jesus 5 · 2⤊ 2⤋