How can you rationally bring prayer back into schools?

Question

Kids are snot-nosed brats. We don't need them to start fighting over religion. Let's say there a group of Muslims who are praying towards Mecca and a group of kids start giving them trouble. Or let's say a circle of Pagans are chanting spells and people offended. Now if you only want Christianity back in schools, you'd have to ban the other religions which would be impossible since the general public is not in favor of discrimination. This isn't about Godlessness. If you put religions in school, you WILL have conflict.

One nation under God, not one nation under Jesus!

Answer 1

The Catholic Church agrees with the U.S. Constitution as currently interpreted by the U.S. Supreme Court and does not support "structured" prayer in public schools.

In the Vatican II document, Declaration on Religious Freedom, Dignitatis Humanae (Human Dignity), the Church states:

The human person has a right to religious freedom. This freedom means that all men are to be immune from coercion on the part of individuals or of social groups and of any human power, in such wise that no one is to be forced to act in a manner contrary to his own beliefs, whether privately or publicly, whether alone or in association with others, within due limits.

Children will continue to privately pray before tests just like they always have.

With love in Christ.

Answer 2

Students are allowed to pray at school because the U.S. Constitution protects freedom of speech. The Constitution specifically prohibits public schools from sponsoring prayer because the Constitution requires our government to stay neutral on religion. (Public schools are controlled by the government. Private schools that don't receive government funding can do whatever they want with religion.)

There is no rational argument for why there should be public school-sponsored prayer. In fact, there are plenty of reasons why it's unnecessary and harmful.
1. It leads to conflict between people with different beliefs and practices.
2. It's a waste of public resources.
3. If students are required to pray, then it's indoctrination, which is contrary to democracy and freedom of thought.
4. Being forced to pray turns prayer into a chore and doesn't make you a better person.
5. Faith does not require government support.

Matthew 6:6 of the Bible says that when you pray, you should pray in private, not in public. In the Bible, Jesus is alone when he prays.

Answer 3

They allow that type of thing in school... they just don't allow teachers and such to lead others in prayer. And, yes, there is definitely conflict. I don't mind if groups of kids decide they want to hold a gathering at school, After or Before school... I believe that Religion should be taught at home... IF you are of the mind to raising your children within one particular Religion (I'm not of that mind...) But Public Schools are about teaching the children how to survive in this world... the Physical one. I think too many parents are relying on the Gov't to raise their children and then when something goes wrong they wonder why *Sigh*

Answer 4

I feel like a broken record on these kinds of questions.

Prayer is allowed in public school, with very minor restrictions.

Go to the source on this, the Department of Education:

http://www.ed.gov/policy/gen/guid/religionandschools/prayer_guidance.html

Page down to the section called
"Applying the Governing Principles in Particular Contexts"

and read from there.

Most people will be astonished at how much leeway there is in public schools for religious expression.

Why do you suppose so few people actually KNOW what's permissible, when this information is easily found? Why do you suppose that people who should (and I maintain, DO) know what is permissible persist in lying about it?

Answer 5

You must not like kids. Kids trained up in the way they should go are not brats. My mother had the Holy Ghost from age 5. Thanks to all the murderous shooting sprees in school largely due to a lack of prayer and of God in their lives, it's already back by way of their terrorized surviving, grieving class-mates. There use to be such a thing as Christian tolerance by the minority. Sorry you don't remember those days. They were great. I even use to have Christian teachers and a class called Bible as Literature in Public High School. I don't recall any conflict. The ones who made fun respect me to this day that I didn't sow the wild oats they regretfully sowed. How can you rationally exclude a student their religious rights in regards to praying? Daniel in the lions den wasn't hampered by a man-made law. Why try to make all of America godless through your intolerance of Christianity, the Bible and prayer? The Pagans and Muslims might all get saved if we would have a prayer meeting and spiritual revival in the schools of this country. I mean the worst that could happen is that abortions would cease, S.T.D.'s from promiscuity would diminish and cease, suicides would cease, grades would improve, thefts and vandalisms would cease, they would be ready and qualified for future employment with reliable character and leadership skills including the best of hygeine, morals, decency, honesty, and character, there would be no obscene or racist remarks in the hallways or on buses, no fist fights, no rude gestures, nobody would be made fun of, the authorities respected and seldom needed for corrections, they would be a joy to teach, they would be more apt to stay in monogamous marriage relationships where their children could have both a mom and a dad for all their lives and for their children and grandchildren to know and the Christians would tolerate and not persecute those who didn't believe as they always have done. Would that be such a crime? Talk about irrational to be against the children of our nation praying to God! Our Presidents always have until more recent years. Our very best leaders in history were God fearing publicly ackowledging praying men. Our military has relied on the prayers of parents, family members, and churches for centuries. Yes, even you need the prayers of the Christians and you have them. Don't esteem the grace of God lightly or the right to pray to the God of Heaven and Earth and His Son Jesus. You deny us the right and you may long for the time you can hear someone praying aloud to God. Righteousness exhalteth any nation but sin is a reproach.

Answer 6

opposite to standard incorrect information, prayer replaced into in no way taken out of public colleges, ever, everywhere. Any pupil can decide directly to wish at their discretion as long as they do no longer disrupt the academic technique. i've got seen pupils pray discretely in the lunchroom till now food, in the lecture room till now checks, on the athletic container till now and by a activity, and so forth. None of it replaced into prohibited through any regulation. the only element that replaced into prohibited replaced into mandated prayer through the school administration or the state. The prepare of religion is an argument between the pupil and his or her family members, the state or college has no business enterprise in it.

Answer 7

Lol I don't care what your religion is, you can't take prayer out of schools.. just ask any kid who didn't study for a major exam ;)

Seriously though, I get what you're saying.. the problem isn't in the religion, it's in the people.

Answer 8

This used to be one nation under God.

Answer 9

i agree, it would create conflict, which is why there are private schools that have religion in them, i know i would not be comfortable in a school where we would be forced to pray to god,

Answer 10

The problem is people have taken God out of everything, if you do that you are basically telling Him you don't need Him. That is when God is going to step aside and things are not going to work out.