Are we to pray to dead saints?
Exd 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me. This also being confirmed in Deu 5:6
Jhn 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
That is a Jesus speaking and declaring in fact all of God people are gods with a little g. Meaning subjects of God.
So in praying to anyone other then the Father God are you sinning against Gods law?
Jesus when ask to teach us how to pray he said our Father in heaven.
Also is confirmed in PSa 82:6 I have said, Ye [are] gods; and all of you [are] children of the most High.
2006-12-27
19:43:14
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There is not one account in the bible of a holy person praying to anyone other then God. The bowls that have the saints prayers in them are not answered by the saints. God answers our prayers no one other then God has the right. Nor is it there priviledge. We are not heathen we are christians as christians we have one God and one Lord Jesus christ who is the one and only mediator between God and man. Actually we know from scriptures that the people in heaven are unaware of the events on the earth. Only is revelation do we really see heaven pause when Jesus opens the 7th seal. To pray to another person other then our high priest is a sin as we are priest unto God. Who do priest take there prayers to, the High Priest. In the case of a christian we have no earthly high priest but a High Priest seated at the right hand of God. The people in heaven do not interceed for us we interceed for the people on the earth. At death we no longer affect the earth. We are recieved into heaven.
2006-12-27
20:19:47 ·
update #1
Aberham mosus and elisha are not in heaven yeat. But that is another teaching.
2006-12-27
20:45:28 ·
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There are so many errors like this, in the teachings of the Catholic Church. Most directly contradict the teachings of God in the Bible.
2006-12-27 20:00:08
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answered by Anonymous
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God is the God of the living, not the dead. Abraham rejoiced when he witnessed the coming of the Messiah.
Not bad for a dead guy who can't see anything going on down here on earth.
And let's not forget Elijah and Moses, who appeared alongside Jesus at the mount of transfiguration.
You're making all your assumptions based only on the spotty information contained in holy book that wasn't ever meant to answer all these questions.
No wonder ALL your conclusions are wrong.
2006-12-28 04:34:28
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answered by Anonymous
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you ask a true question for a seeker who wants true worship.
you cannot pray to a saint unless that saint have authority in his death and in the kingdom of God.
on the other hand making idols to worship can be seen as a fruitless endeavor, yet God commanded that brazen serpent be raised in order to save people who believed.
idolatry is defined by statues that dont breathe and those that dont have life.
saints that once lived are alive, but we should not pray to any saint at all we should pray to god the father in the name of jesus.
and God has ordained that angels minister to mortal beings and that they do the things that everyone can share in doing the works beyond the mortal vision. IF guardian angels do minister to mortals than it is the work of God, which he delegates to beings that have lived and are yet to live. if these guardian angels have superior angelic beings than it is because they know how to get things done and the blessings are upon us all.
2006-12-28 06:41:51
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answered by Anonymous
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Before Jesus Christ died for our sins and opened the gates of heaven there were no saints in heaven. Therefore there are no Old Testament writings that would mention them.
Very few of the new Christians died before most of the New Testament was written. Therefore there is little in the Bible about asking saints to pray for us.
However the last book of the Bible does talk about the saints in heaven praying.
Revelation 5:8: Each of the elders held a harp and gold bowls filled with incense, which are the prayers of the holy ones.
Revelation 8:3-4: He was given a great quantity of incense to offer, along with the prayers of all the holy ones, on the gold altar that was before the throne. The smoke of the incense along with the prayers of the holy ones went up before God from the hand of the angel.
The Holy Spirit guided the early Church in many things not explained in the Bible including how does the Body of Christ (believers) living on Earth relate to the Body of Christ (saints) living in heaven. We are still one Body.
Catholics share the belief in the Communion of Saints with many other Christians, including the Eastern Orthodox, Anglican, Episcopal, and Methodist Churches.
The Communion of Saints is the belief where all saints are intimately related in the Body of Christ, a family. When you die and go to heaven, you do not leave this family.
Everyone in heaven or on their way to heaven are saints, you, me, my deceased grandmother, Mary the mother of Jesus, and Mother Teresa.
As part of this family, you may ask your family and friends living here on earth to pray for you. Or, you may also ask the Blessed Virgin Mary, Saint Andrew, or your deceased grandmother living in heaven to pray for you.
Prayer to saints in heaven is simple communication, not worship.
With love in Christ.
2006-12-28 23:58:11
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answered by imacatholic2 7
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When was the last time your actually heard of someone praying to a dead saint? Acknowleding the good deeds of a fellow traveler of the universe isn't idolizing.
Revelations 22:8-9(NIV) 8 I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I had heard and seen them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who had been showing them to me. 9 But he said to me, "Do not do it! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers the prophets and of all who keep the words of this book. Worship God!"
2006-12-28 03:46:07
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answered by Red Winged Bandit 4
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One charge made against it is that the saints in heaven cannot even hear our prayers, making it useless to ask for their intercession. However, this is not true. As Scripture indicates, those in heaven are aware of the prayers of those on earth. This can be seen, for example, in Revelation 5:8, where John depicts the saints in heaven offering our prayers to God under the form of "golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints." But if the saints in heaven are offering our prayers to God, then they must be aware of our prayers. They are aware of our petitions and present them to God by interceding for us.
Some might try to argue that in this passage the prayers being offered were not addressed to the saints in heaven, but directly to God. Yet this argument would only strengthen the fact that those in heaven can hear our prayers, for then the saints would be aware of our prayers even when they are not directed to them!
In any event, it is clear from Revelation 5:8 that the saints in heaven do actively intercede for us. We are explicitly told by John that the incense they offer to God are the prayers of the saints. Prayers are not physical things and cannot be physically offered to God. Thus the saints in heaven are offering our prayers to God mentally. In other words, they are interceding.
2006-12-28 04:04:59
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answered by ? 6
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Pray to the Father through Jesus, with the Holy Spirit.
Not Mary or saints. Sad, I grew up 15 years in Catholic Church and schools, they never told me once how to get to heaven...jut told me go to church, be nice and say alot of hail mary's.
There are some wonderful people in there. I encourage all Catholics to read the Bible more! Blessings,
David
2006-12-28 03:49:18
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answered by Anonymous
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Yes
2006-12-28 03:45:41
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answered by Anonymous
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