Ec. 7:20 For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.
Genesis 6:9
Noah was a just man and perfect....
Psalm 37:12
The wicked plotteth against the just, and gnasheth upon him with his teeth.
Proverbs :33
The curse of the LORD is in the house of the wicked: but he blesseth the habitation of the just.
Proverbs 4:18
But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day.
Proverbs 9:9
Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be yet wiser: teach a just man, and he will increase in learning.
Proverbs 10:6
Blessings are upon the head of the just: but violence covereth the mouth of the wicked.
Proverbs 10:7
The memory of the just is blessed: but the name of the wicked shall rot.
Proverbs 10:20
The tongue of the just is as choice silver. etc..etc..
Aren't the last verses in contradiction with the first verse?
2006-12-27 18:56:56 · 21 answers · asked by *~SoL~ * Pashaa del Ñuñcaa. 4 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Buttercup, I did not realize I was twisting & taking anything out of context. Can you show me exactly where?-- Thank you.
2006-12-27 19:21:35 · update #1
#1 means no man is perfect.
#2 is a misquote it says he was righteous.
#3 means evil people plan to sabatoge good people, like twisting the Bible around (hmmmm)
#4 Saved people start with a glimmer of light and brighten until they reach perfect light in Heaven
#5 Knowledge and wisdom are learned and taught
#6 Blessings crown the head of the righteous,
but violence overwhelms the mouth of the wicked. Prety self explanitory, righteous produce good thoughts, evil produce evil words.
#7 The memory of the righteous will be a blessing,
but the name of the wicked will rot means useful history will be written about the righteous, and as time passes the evil will be seen as worse.
#8 The wise in heart accept commands, but a chattering fool comes to ruin. Like you, perhaps.
No, they dont.
Anything else.
2006-12-27 19:08:41 · answer #1 · answered by ? 4 · 4⤊ 0⤋
No, because by the time Ecclesiastes was written, Noah the just man had long since been dead.
The other verses speak hypothetically of just people, but that doesn't necessarily mean there were any around at the time -- "just" meaning "perfect" that is.
By the way, the description of Noah as "perfect" in Genesis doesn't mean that Noah never sinned, or never did anything wrong. It simply means that his faith in God was never-wavering.
2006-12-28 03:05:36 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
The first verse states that nobody is without sin. The term "wicked" describes people with evil intentions. That is not all of us.
About Noah, I found the word "blameless" in a couple of translations. This, I assume means he was not guilty of the things for which the others in his time received condemnation.
2006-12-28 03:14:35 · answer #3 · answered by out of the grey 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Those verses are taken completely out of context and have no relation to the first verse.
Yes, the context around phrases does contribute to the meaning of the phrase, and I will show you how::
If I just told you, "Go jump in the lake!" you might be offended. That phrase by itself is commonly understood as an insult.
But if I used that same phrase in the situation that you were at a summer camp and we had just gotten out of a hot cabin, and you had asked me if there was any way to cool down, the phrase "Go jump in the lake!" would sound very, very different (and possibly appealing).
Please, if you are going to make points, also try to leave the statements in the text around them.
2006-12-28 03:09:23 · answer #4 · answered by mmhmm141 2 · 2⤊ 0⤋
it depends on who is the hypocrite and who is the Holiest.
if a holy man is called wicked and a wicked man is called just.
from one of the verses you cite Noah was called perfect so was Enoch and Job. but it includes that No One else was saved in their generation. At least NOT until Jesus opened WiDE the prison gates and all the saints were released and all the sinners were forgiven thta would accept it
2006-12-28 03:02:17 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
God doesnt believe in Atheists. Yet He loves them and would not wish anyone to suffer.
Only a fool would say, "There is no God!" People like that are worthless! They are heartless and cruel and never do right.
Pro 18:2 Fools have no desire to learn; they would much rather give their own opinion.
Pro 28:26 Only fools would trust what they alone think, but if you live by wisdom, you will do all right.
2006-12-28 03:18:26 · answer #6 · answered by Mats india 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
1. no one is deserving of gods grace from there works. Everyone has sinned in some way.
2. Noah found favor with god because he had a good heart.
3. bad, self serving, people take advantage of the selfless,
forcibly sometimes
4. bad tidings to the bad, good tidings to the good.
5. as you grow closer to the lord your walk with him becomes better and better, easier to do takes less deliberate effort to seek his Will.
6. people seeking to do the lords will, take knowledge and gain from it physically and spiritually.
The whole idea the bottom line is this, when we seek to do god's will we are just don't confuse this with people saying they're doing something in god's name you have to know the scripture and earnestly seek what god would want us to do in any given situation. those who look to themselves for answers or to other men or the flesh(the world) are bound to be misguided at least some of the time because they're bound to be tempted by greed, lust, envy, wrath, pride,etc. hope that helps. P.S. be careful not to take one phrase from the bible and set it beside another where it means somethng completely different than intended. I could say "and the one who betrayed him, Judas hung himself. Now go, and do likewise. there both written in the bible but nowhere in the bible does it tell me to go and hang myself.
2006-12-28 03:22:23 · answer #7 · answered by jsph 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
The proper Christian answer would be:
"You have heard the commandment, 'You shall love your countrymen but hate your enemy.' My command to you is; love your enemies, pray for your persecutors...If you love those who love you, what merit is there in that? Do not tax collectors do as much? And if you greet your brothers only, what is so praiseworthy about that? Do not pagans do as much? In a word, you must be made perfect...."
Matthew 5: 43-48
2006-12-28 03:05:34 · answer #8 · answered by Khnopff71 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Superficially they contradict or literally, but theologically they do not, because the bible contians the interpretation to that riddle and many others. God is to be sought earnestly and those who seek him find him.
The key is understanding and submitting to God your Lords definitions, not man made ones.
So they do not contradict. You must understand the full theology of the bible in order find the reconciliation. But will you ever accept an answer that doesn't support your advantage?
If you went that far to fish these scriptures out, I wish you would search so hard to find the good, that it may reveal itself to you.
2006-12-28 03:36:34 · answer #9 · answered by Socinian F 3 · 1⤊ 1⤋
It's easy to get confused with such scriptures, but the answer is quite simple. There is a level of perfection in the eyes of the Father, which we can achieve. "God" knows we're going to make mistakes on our path to His "perfection", but declares us perfect if we can sincerely repent of our sins, and make a sincere effort to turn from our sinful thoughts that lead to sin. This is why Jesus said to be "perfect" as our Father is perfect. We're giving a goal that is attainable. By our practicing our earthly perfection, we can gain the heavenly perfection. Willful sin is, for one, what keeps us from being "perfect".
2006-12-28 03:35:46 · answer #10 · answered by Ben Yehovah 1 · 2⤊ 0⤋